F355 with Tubi, KKK and a remap.
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Came across this from ex-Evo magazine's David Yu:
"...Of course it didn't take long for me to get the tuning bug again. I had read very good reports about an Italian aftermarket exhaust manufacturer called Tubi Style, whose Ferrari sports/competition systems were among the few acknowledged ways of liberating a few extra (prancing) ponies. I therefore insisted that Verdi import one for my car. The resulting aural symphony was justification enough for the high price, but I was slightly disappointed that the Spider did not feel that much faster, even with a K&N replacement free-flow air filter allowing more air in.
It was only after the ECU was remapped by Superchips that the injectors had the extra fuel to match that air, enhanced by more aggressive ignition timing and the exclusive use of super unleaded. The Ferrari now went like it sounded, the banshee F1 wail providing the mouth to match the tweaked V8's trousers. Certainly a few 360 owners were shocked to discover the older car keeping up on trackdays."
Loads of you must have come across this passage before. I was just wondering if anyone has done something similar? I thought remapping ECU in cars like a Ferrari 355 which is tuned to very near the maximum levels was a no-no?
Does anyone know how Yu's particular car survived it's next owners and whether it's still going strong?
I just looked up the Koneig twin turbo(KKK) conversion again and that looks unbelievable!
The F355 just keeps pulling me back! I just can't quite shake it! What a wonderful rear 3/4 view. Very little in the last 30 years comes close.
"...Of course it didn't take long for me to get the tuning bug again. I had read very good reports about an Italian aftermarket exhaust manufacturer called Tubi Style, whose Ferrari sports/competition systems were among the few acknowledged ways of liberating a few extra (prancing) ponies. I therefore insisted that Verdi import one for my car. The resulting aural symphony was justification enough for the high price, but I was slightly disappointed that the Spider did not feel that much faster, even with a K&N replacement free-flow air filter allowing more air in.
It was only after the ECU was remapped by Superchips that the injectors had the extra fuel to match that air, enhanced by more aggressive ignition timing and the exclusive use of super unleaded. The Ferrari now went like it sounded, the banshee F1 wail providing the mouth to match the tweaked V8's trousers. Certainly a few 360 owners were shocked to discover the older car keeping up on trackdays."
Loads of you must have come across this passage before. I was just wondering if anyone has done something similar? I thought remapping ECU in cars like a Ferrari 355 which is tuned to very near the maximum levels was a no-no?
Does anyone know how Yu's particular car survived it's next owners and whether it's still going strong?
I just looked up the Koneig twin turbo(KKK) conversion again and that looks unbelievable!
The F355 just keeps pulling me back! I just can't quite shake it! What a wonderful rear 3/4 view. Very little in the last 30 years comes close.
I've never seen or heard of anyone that has got any decent results from a remap. Its quite highly tuned from factory, Im not sure you'd get alot more out of it, and if you did, at what expense to durability?
Forget the Tubi, put a capristo on and decat it, sounds about 10 times quicker than it is!
Forget the Tubi, put a capristo on and decat it, sounds about 10 times quicker than it is!
http://autospeed.com/cms/A_2699/article.html
Check this out, here's a guy that did a twin turbo conversion on a 355. Apparently pumping out an Enzo beating 750bhp. According to the write up it can be used just like any other 355 and is still going strong.
The engines on the 355 are supposed to be very solid, as long as everything is maintained properly. Mainly belts and hoses. The only worry is the usualy Italian Electrics!
Check this out, here's a guy that did a twin turbo conversion on a 355. Apparently pumping out an Enzo beating 750bhp. According to the write up it can be used just like any other 355 and is still going strong.
The engines on the 355 are supposed to be very solid, as long as everything is maintained properly. Mainly belts and hoses. The only worry is the usualy Italian Electrics!
I remember spending a morning at Bruntingthorpe a few years ago with David and a few mutual friends. His 355 was a lovely bit of kit and sounded simply stunning. Lovely stabs of flame from all 4 pipes on gearchanges etc. It was certainly as quick as the F360 that was also there and ran rings round an XKR and 3200GT.
Not sure what happened to it, but I certainly wouldn't think the remap and exhaust have done lasting damage to the car.
Matt
Not sure what happened to it, but I certainly wouldn't think the remap and exhaust have done lasting damage to the car.
Matt
MattOz said:
I remember spending a morning at Bruntingthorpe a few years ago with David and a few mutual friends. His 355 was a lovely bit of kit and sounded simply stunning. Lovely stabs of flame from all 4 pipes on gearchanges etc. It was certainly as quick as the F360 that was also there and ran rings round an XKR and 3200GT.
Not sure what happened to it, but I certainly wouldn't think the remap and exhaust have done lasting damage to the car.
Matt
Wotcha Matt, nice to hear you still have good memories of that day! Crikey, that was years ago...Not sure what happened to it, but I certainly wouldn't think the remap and exhaust have done lasting damage to the car.
Matt
Anyway, when I got my F355 back in 1999, there was zero tuning available for it here.
I read in a US Ferrari mag about Tubi-Style and pestered Karl Verdi to import a system which he did, complete with decat pipes and a freer-flowing air filter.
The resulting noise was awesome, but the car didn't feel much faster.
He then took it to Superchips for a remap and the result was spectacular: much better throttle response and mid-range torque combined with a screaming top-end and the ability to easily match a stock 360M.
The car ran with no problems (other than exhaust manifolds, which melt on standard cars anyway) for 5 years, which is something of a record for a Yu-mobile...
However I believe the next owner didn't fare as well with a cylinder liner needing replacing. Was that due to my mods? I honestly don't know, but I do know that having experienced the fun of the tuned car, I could not go back to a standard one.
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