Sump + rocker cover gasket part no.s

[m4rk]

Hi,

I need to get new gaskets for sump and rocker covers due to a few small leaks. I assume these are std items but what are the part numbers and approx price in pounds? Hopefully I can get them from local Range Rover dealer but if not has anyone got suggestions for a source in the UK? It's not as easy as it should be here in Austria to get TVR stuff and the price can be OTT even for std items. Or if anyone has suggestions for better than std items from somewhere that would be nice too.

Thanks Mark.

[V8 Animal]

Don't clevor trevor/tvr power/tvr carparts airmail?
Use the rubber gaskets for the rockers and sealant for the sump.
V8 Animal

[spend]

There are main dealers in Munich & Ausburg, you just want the 4.0/6 rubber ones which are re-usable. Paddock at Matlock are cheap & ship all over the world if you wnat them off the net.

[Earl Grey]

Get the rubber rocker ones ! Standard rover kit ! About 4-7 quid from the motor factors

Sump not sure but im guessing for a few quid it would be standard rover V8 stuff

[pod1236]

I am based in Sweden and have bought parts from Clevor Trevor without problems. Delivery within less than a week. Shipping is around 25 pounds. To seal the sump I would recommend to use silicone sealant. Have used Loctite 5926 with good result.

[Chassis 33]

If you have time, one of the tricks I know engine builders use for the sump is to run a bead of sealant all round the sump, then leave it 24hrs to set before offering up to the block. Seems to be the best solution, as the cork gaskets are pretty crap and you don't want sealant oozing out and potentially getting into the oil system.
Regards
Iain

[kbear]

Hi M4rk,

I've used these guys twice and they've shipped to Austria in 48 hours and the price was much better than TVR specialists.

http://www.britishparts.co.uk/

cheers
Anthony

[m4rk]

Thanks guys for the help.

Normally there is a cork sump gasket, right? But it seems the recommendation here is to use silicon instead.

Anthony on the link you sent I saw this
GASKET-SUMP OIL PAN #LVF100400
LATE STYLE RUBBER SUMP PAN GASKET
DISCOVERY SERIES 1 4.0 V8 1994 - 1999
DISCOVERY SERIES 2 4.0 V8 1999 - 2004
RANGE ROVER 4.0 / 4.6 V8 1995 - 2002

CANNOT BE USED TO REPLACE CORK GASKET why not??????????

Edited by m4rk on Tuesday 28th October 11:35

[Chassis 33]

The rubber gasket is for the later engines that have a longer sump than the intermediate serpentine and pre-serp engines.

Regards
Iain

[spend]

As standard (LR) the cork gasket was replaced by sealant @1994 (with the 3.9 serp engines).

Cork gaskets are fine if you can get decent ones, it seems nearly all now are thin excuses The difference in quality between some of these pattern parts is considerable. I've used adhesive foam closed cell strip (sealant in the corners) successfully.

[m4rk]

I thought this was going to be a relatively simple matter



My car is 1994 Chim 500. I have no idea what was used on the sump and TVR service have probably changed it since new. I have never taken it off myself. I might call Heath Briggs (exTVR service) to see what he recommends.

[m4rk]

Here's what Heath had to say:

Rocker covers .. used to be cork gasket now rubber.. can be obtained from TVR power.

Sump... used to be cork 10yrs ago but were rubbish and often blew out. Silicon isn't good either. Recommends black hi temp (250C) adhesive Hylomar? or other stuff found in tubes? Again TVR power could supply but its std stuff so I should be able find an equivalent here, Austria.

[That Daddy]

Quinny said:

For the sump, just go to a Land Rover dealer and buy a cork gasket for a 3.5, 3.9 4.0, 4.6 Range Rover.

Yep, thats what i am using,silicone works best on flat gasket faces of which the RV8 sump is not,meaning running thick beads which then ends up in the sump(no thanks)i use with a smear of this stuff http://www.cromwell.co.uk/static/pdfs/s/medusa_att... left to cure for an hour before closing joint i think silicone is great stuff and use it on a daily basis but not for this job

[chrispitman]

On the gaskets I thought the 4.6 Range Rover had a different Sump (also 4.0 serp) had a different shape sump. The TVR 4.6 uses the 3.9 sump off the early engines.

[kbear]

Hi Mark,

Just listen to these guys, I have no idea which gasket you need, but order the part from a UK shop online. I’ve had so many bad experiences looking for car parts in Austria for the Griff and Elan, even the Austrian’s that own “interesting” UK cars will order their parts from the UK. If the cars older than 5 years they won’t have the parts in stock and if you can’t quote a VIN number they’ll hang up on you or just turn around and serve the next customer. I’ve been laughed out of a shop looking for a Ford Cortina oil filter, once they found out of was for a Lotus they said a firm “no, and we don’t sell parts for Lamborghini or Ferrari either!”.

If you can find a shop that’s interested, you’ll need to pay before they order it, it will take 5-10 working days as it will come from the UK, to a distributor and then to their shop, and cost twice as much.

Ok, my rants over...

Save yourself the pain and order from the UK!!

[m4rk]

kbear said:

Hi Mark,

Just listen to these guys, I have no idea which gasket you need, but order the part from a UK shop online. I’ve had so many bad experiences looking for car parts in Austria for the Griff and Elan, even the Austrian’s that own “interesting” UK cars will order their parts from the UK. If the cars older than 5 years they won’t have the parts in stock and if you can’t quote a VIN number they’ll hang up on you or just turn around and serve the next customer. I’ve been laughed out of a shop looking for a Ford Cortina oil filter, once they found out of was for a Lotus they said a firm “no, and we don’t sell parts for Lamborghini or Ferrari either!”.

If you can find a shop that’s interested, you’ll need to pay before they order it, it will take 5-10 working days as it will come from the UK, to a distributor and then to their shop, and cost twice as much.

Ok, my rants over...

Save yourself the pain and order from the UK!!

I know what you mean. I send Linda out on the hunt looking my old favourites and parts... she speaks better German than me and can flutter her eye lids to great effect,,, makes me laugh when I see them try to sort it out for her. If it was my ugly mug and bad German then unless I do a ton of research first there is no chance of any help. TVR whats that!!! She even gets discount and free fitting!!!

Mostly I end up ordering from UK as its easier and usually I do not mind the wait but as I live here I like to at least try. I am never going to get used to Austria otherwise. Spent ages looking for waxoyl but ended up ordering from UK.... 28 quid plus 32 quid P&P, ouch!! At least the exchange rate is my favour right now.

Problem with ordering is making sure I have the right part and number or I just go to TVR specialist and pay for the privelege. Hence my visit here... if I have a Rover part number I can check with the local dealer and not mention its for a TVR.... I printed off Quinny's useful picture and will send Linda out on a mission again

Edited by m4rk on Tuesday 28th October 18:41

[m4rk]

Quinny said:

Try here

£3.00 each
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/cgi-bin/rimmer?findpar...

£5.00
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/cgi-bin/rimmer?findpar...

If you're really struggling, mail me. I'll buy em for you and post em over.

Quinny.... thanks for the offer of help. If the links are to the correct parts then I should be able to order. I have a UK address if they moan about posting abroad...security, hassle, blah balh blah... The Austrians find it strange that I talk about UK and Europe as if they were seperate .....but they are seperate that 20 mile stretch of briny water makes all the difference.