Fake Cartier?
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worried chap

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12 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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Hello all,

I've been offered a second chance on this watch on ebay, but I've suddenly had some doubts about its authenticity. Can anyone spot anything that might suggest if it is real or not?





toohuge

3,469 posts

237 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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If you don't mind me asking, how much were you offered? Don't give us the exact price just a ball park i.e. 200-300 etc

BiggusLaddus

821 posts

252 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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toohuge said:
If you don't mind me asking, how much were you offered? Don't give us the exact price just a ball park i.e. 200-300 etc
If it was that cheap, then I think you could definatley rule out genuine!

worried chap

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12 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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About £1300. I think there should be a serial number on the back though, which I can't see.

There's always a chance the seller has a fake watch without knowing it too.

Dominic H

3,287 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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worried chap said:
Hello all,

I've been offered a second chance on this watch on ebay, but I've suddenly had some doubts about its authenticity. Can anyone spot anything that might suggest if it is real or not?



What is the story?
How old is the watch?
Where and when was it sold when new? Does the watch have the original Cartier warranty.?
How much is the seller asking?
Will you have the watch inspected at a Cartier Jeweller prior to purchase?

What is the ebay selling number?

worried chap

Original Poster:

12 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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The number is 250313606184

The seller swears it's genuine, but if it isn't then a load of hassle would ensue if it turned out not to be

I've asked for photos of all the paperwork but am awaiting a response

Dominic H

3,287 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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worried chap said:
The number is 250313606184

The seller swears it's genuine, but if it isn't then a load of hassle would ensue if it turned out not to be

I've asked for photos of all the paperwork but am awaiting a response
Looking at the image of the back, it is marked 1904-2004. This denotes it as a 100th anniversary (2004) model, these were made in limited numbers.-Looking closely the markings, they look etched not engraved.
The box shown in the image is a later type and does not include the paperwork.- Why not?
The description makes no mention of any Cartier paperwork.-Why not?
The seller is in Chelsea, super!-Arrange to meet them at the Cartier Sloane St showroom to have the watch's authenticty verified.-Any refusal to do so, walk away.
If your distance precludes you from meeting in person,check the case number with Cartier UK on 020 7408 5700.

There are some very,very good copies circulating with all kinds of shaggy dog stories. Bear in mind that you can pick up Cartier boxes and unused Genuine Cartier warranties on eBay from time to time.

In summary, there are a few things that do not look right. Get the watch verified at Cartier or don't buy it.

worried chap

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12 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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Thanks Dominic,

I think there are too many questions raised by this watch. It's cheap if it's real, but makes for an incredibly pricey fake.

Having looked at some definitely authentic examples on the web, there seems to be a set of numbers missing from the back. I think there should be three lines of text below the '1904-2004', and this one only appears to have two lines.

Might be worth nipping to Chelsea to see, but it could be a waste of time

Dominic H

3,287 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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worried chap said:
Thanks Dominic,

I think there are too many questions raised by this watch. It's cheap if it's real, but makes for an incredibly pricey fake.

Might be worth nipping to Chelsea to see, but it could be a waste of time
1. Yes, it's too cheap if real.
2.If the seller doesn't want to meet at Cartier, you have your answer. If they do, there is
a tiny chance you've got yourself a bargain.

Call me a cynic,but......

Cavanagh

643 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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I have one of these just going in to owen and robinson were it was bought from and you can get it from them if you want ask for daniel
01132453773

Dominic H

3,287 posts

253 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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Worried chap, how did you get on?

worried chap

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12 posts

225 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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One disgruntled seller, but willing to meet me in a Cartier store next week. We'll soon find out. Part of me thinks it might be a replica but the seller doesn't realise this. I still think there are numbers missing from the back of the case

Vron

2,541 posts

230 months

Friday 31st October 2008
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Shouldn't it say Cartier on the number ten "X" instead of one of the "\"'s that make up the roman numeral "X"? I know I haven't made that very clear!