oh dear oh dear oh dear..we are screwed
oh dear oh dear oh dear..we are screwed
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mark69sheer

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3,906 posts

232 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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pies1981

8,998 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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disgusting

mark69sheer

Original Poster:

3,906 posts

232 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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This has got to be the end of the capitalist system.
Human nature sadly can't help itself.

I am seriously considering selling up and jumping the rat race . . if only I could sell up.

Adrian W

15,532 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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Funny that, I know a company that's having a bumpy time, the first thing their bank did was stop all bonus payments. Then they reduced their overdraft.

mark69sheer

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3,906 posts

232 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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Bankers really are wkers

kambites

71,516 posts

251 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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Am I being stupid? I don't see a story at all.

They have put 7bn into a pool which gets used for salaries and bonuses next year. That's roughly a 10% rise over last year. No-where does it say that one cent of that will actually be used for executive bonuses. Do you expect them to not pay their staff next year?

Oops, OK it does say that 1.5bn is for bonuses. Carry on! getmecoat

Edited by kambites on Thursday 30th October 08:20

zooooom

1,310 posts

290 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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I’m affair this type of corruption will not stop until theres a revolution.
It one rules for them and another for us.
“Do as we say and not as we do”.
Just wait until next year when the government announces that YOU will have to pay an extra 2-3 pence on your income tax to pay for their privileged no morals lifestyle. mad


Edited by zooooom on Thursday 30th October 08:22

richyb

4,615 posts

240 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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kambites said:
Am I being stupid? I don't see a story at all.

They have put 7bn into a pool which gets used for salaries and bonuses next year. That's roughly a 10% rise over last year. No-where does it say that one cent of that will actually be used for executive bonuses. Do you expect them to not pay their staff next year?
Nope, standard DailyMail tactics. Focus on the hatred easy on the facts.

mark69sheer

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3,906 posts

232 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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richyb said:
kambites said:
Am I being stupid? I don't see a story at all.

They have put 7bn into a pool which gets used for salaries and bonuses next year. That's roughly a 10% rise over last year. No-where does it say that one cent of that will actually be used for executive bonuses. Do you expect them to not pay their staff next year?
Nope, standard DailyMail tactics. Focus on the hatred easy on the facts.
Each of the firm's 443 partners is on course to pocket an average Christmas bonus of more than £3million.

Swilly

9,699 posts

304 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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No doubt there is a Daily Mail spin to this story, but....

.... given the market for bankers is much more fluid now, what with all the job losses, why are these banks still even offering bonuses !?

In order to keep staff !? hardly hehe

Of course every company has to continue to pay its staff, but given our capitalist market driven system, salaries should be going down and bonuses stopped imho simply on the basis that there are excess bankers in the market

paoloh

8,617 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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mark69sheer said:
richyb said:
kambites said:
Am I being stupid? I don't see a story at all.

They have put 7bn into a pool which gets used for salaries and bonuses next year. That's roughly a 10% rise over last year. No-where does it say that one cent of that will actually be used for executive bonuses. Do you expect them to not pay their staff next year?
Nope, standard DailyMail tactics. Focus on the hatred easy on the facts.
Each of the firm's 443 partners is on course to pocket an average Christmas bonus of more than £3million.
This is fking disgusting!! What are the Gov. doing to end this sort of thing?

tallbloke

10,376 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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kambites said:
Oops, OK it does say that 1.5bn is for bonuses. Carry on! getmecoat
The high priests of capitalism with their heads in the trough while their failed business models suck on the tit of the taxpayer along with the dole wallahs.

The hypocrisy doesn't bother them. They are immune to the obvious odiousness of their behaviour. Just so long as they get the money and can't be endighted for fraud it's ok in their book.

We should have let their banks fall and set up a new exchange denomination with our taxes.

zooooom

1,310 posts

290 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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paoloh said:
mark69sheer said:
richyb said:
kambites said:
Am I being stupid? I don't see a story at all.

They have put 7bn into a pool which gets used for salaries and bonuses next year. That's roughly a 10% rise over last year. No-where does it say that one cent of that will actually be used for executive bonuses. Do you expect them to not pay their staff next year?
Nope, standard DailyMail tactics. Focus on the hatred easy on the facts.
Each of the firm's 443 partners is on course to pocket an average Christmas bonus of more than £3million.
This is fking disgusting!! What are the Gov. doing to end this sort of thing?
Nothink.

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

314 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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Big cash bonuses might be a sign that the firm is about to go tits up, or at least that the partners are not confident about the future (i.e. emptying the tills on the way out).

ISTR reading about a similar thing happening at Salomon Bros in the 80s.

That said, I don't know whether £3m is considered a big bonus at partner level.

kambites

71,516 posts

251 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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paoloh said:
This is fking disgusting!! What are the Gov. doing to end this sort of thing?
I can't see a republican government trying to legislate against big bonuses somehow. hehe

Titan Simba

18,451 posts

224 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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mark69sheer said:
Bankers really are wkers
It's funny because it's true AND it rhymes!

biggrin

MrVelox

2,974 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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A very great many people who work in the financial industry on this side of the pond get paid virtually on their bonuses. It's not uncommon for typical earnings to be 3/4 bonus.

IE, you do a job that's got a typical salary of $150,000. You might get $60,000 during the year and a $90,000 bonus.

It's not like management is lining their pockets with the money.

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

314 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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MrVelox said:
A very great many people who work in the financial industry on this side of the pond get paid virtually on their bonuses. It's not uncommon for typical earnings to be 3/4 bonus.

IE, you do a job that's got a typical salary of $150,000. You might get $60,000 during the year and a $90,000 bonus.

It's not like management is lining their pockets with the money.
Yes, but presumably the point of a bonus is to reward good performance. If the bonuses still come after a period of massive under-performance, what's the point?

mark69sheer

Original Poster:

3,906 posts

232 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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MrVelox said:
A very great many people who work in the financial industry on this side of the pond get paid virtually on their bonuses. It's not uncommon for typical earnings to be 3/4 bonus.

IE, you do a job that's got a typical salary of $150,000. You might get $60,000 during the year and a $90,000 bonus.

It's not like management is lining their pockets with the money.
But it might be like tax evasion . . or avoiding NI contributions.. wink

kambites

71,516 posts

251 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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HundredthIdiot said:
MrVelox said:
A very great many people who work in the financial industry on this side of the pond get paid virtually on their bonuses. It's not uncommon for typical earnings to be 3/4 bonus.

IE, you do a job that's got a typical salary of $150,000. You might get $60,000 during the year and a $90,000 bonus.

It's not like management is lining their pockets with the money.
Yes, but presumably the point of a bonus is to reward good performance. If the bonuses still come after a period of massive under-performance, what's the point?
That seems to be the point. If they get it regardless of their performance then it's not a bonus, whatever they call it. It's salary.