Fox Servicing - why so much?
Discussion
I've decided to take my Meta out of comission over the winter and get it back to proper working order as it's barely had the chain greased in the year i've been bouncing around on it. Looking on the Mojo and TFT websites, why does it cost so bleeding much to get forks and shocks serviced?
Labour, materials, insurance, advertising, premises, profit.
I found vaniilas easy to service (03 model, the instructions for the floats looked equally easy), there is nothing that can not be done with a few basic tools plus what ever service parts you need. The money I've saved through this process would pay for another fork.
I found vaniilas easy to service (03 model, the instructions for the floats looked equally easy), there is nothing that can not be done with a few basic tools plus what ever service parts you need. The money I've saved through this process would pay for another fork.
WildCards said:
I've decided to take my Meta out of comission over the winter and get it back to proper working order as it's barely had the chain greased in the year i've been bouncing around on it. Looking on the Mojo and TFT websites, why does it cost so bleeding much to get forks and shocks serviced?
What kind of price are you being quoted? I need to get mine serviced too and I've been asked for €120 for a full service on the front fork (Fork Talas RLC 2006).No idea about the rear shock though but then again I'd like to replace this as it's a crappy Fox Triad and it's giving me a hard time.
beanbag said:
WildCards said:
I've decided to take my Meta out of comission over the winter and get it back to proper working order as it's barely had the chain greased in the year i've been bouncing around on it. Looking on the Mojo and TFT websites, why does it cost so bleeding much to get forks and shocks serviced?
What kind of price are you being quoted? I need to get mine serviced too and I've been asked for €120 for a full service on the front fork (Fork Talas RLC 2006).No idea about the rear shock though but then again I'd like to replace this as it's a crappy Fox Triad and it's giving me a hard time.
Thanks for the info though chaps, i'll have a look at doing it myself.
Edited by WildCards on Monday 3rd November 09:34
WildCards said:
beanbag said:
WildCards said:
I've decided to take my Meta out of comission over the winter and get it back to proper working order as it's barely had the chain greased in the year i've been bouncing around on it. Looking on the Mojo and TFT websites, why does it cost so bleeding much to get forks and shocks serviced?
What kind of price are you being quoted? I need to get mine serviced too and I've been asked for €120 for a full service on the front fork (Fork Talas RLC 2006).No idea about the rear shock though but then again I'd like to replace this as it's a crappy Fox Triad and it's giving me a hard time.
Thanks for the info though chaps, i'll have a look at doing it myself.
Edited by WildCards on Monday 3rd November 09:34
Just a note that be seriously careful when servicing forks. They are complicated pieces of equipment and I would never recommend to anyone doing this themselves unless they really did know what they were doing.
While at the bike shop getting my crank, chain and mech repaired, I noticed a chap servicing a pair of Rockshox forks. I didn't see which model they were but considering the number of parts, the cleaning, fluids and so forth, it looked bloody complicated and very messy.
Unless you are willing to potentially loose £350 in the cost of your fork if you screw up the repair, just pay somebody to do it.
Performing an oil and seal change on forks (and indeed changing springs) is very straight forward but you do need to be careful with keeping the dirt / contamination out of the parts.
Both Mojo and TFT charge a rate to sustain their businesses. As with any business you're paying for a level of service and back-up should things go wrong. As said above, if you feel you're competant enough to service your forks (regardless of value) then you should. I've done an oil and seal change on my Talas and the parts cost me £25 and an hour of my time.
Personally, I get 'new' forks serviced by Mojo / TFT during the waranty period in order to maintain the cover without arquement (which I've had course to use). Once the warranty period has ended I service them myself.
Both Mojo and TFT charge a rate to sustain their businesses. As with any business you're paying for a level of service and back-up should things go wrong. As said above, if you feel you're competant enough to service your forks (regardless of value) then you should. I've done an oil and seal change on my Talas and the parts cost me £25 and an hour of my time.
Personally, I get 'new' forks serviced by Mojo / TFT during the waranty period in order to maintain the cover without arquement (which I've had course to use). Once the warranty period has ended I service them myself.
As above, basically. Fork servicing is do-able at home, but ONLY if you have the right kit and skills. There rather more complicated than a spring in 2 tubes. On a new Fox fork, if you have ti serviced by Mojo they will extend the warranty by one year (to two). On a 2nd hand fork, go for it. But dont even THINK about attempting to strip a fork or shock down without a manual, you will get it wrong. Its not as simple as undoing all the bolts and pulling them apart.
As for rear shocks, you can do an Air can service yourself on most shocks. For an oil service, it needs to be sent to a specialist, as the oil is kept under pressure using a Nitrogen charge. You cant do this at home.
(Unless is a Marzocchi Rocco, which are designed specifically to be home-serviceable).
As for rear shocks, you can do an Air can service yourself on most shocks. For an oil service, it needs to be sent to a specialist, as the oil is kept under pressure using a Nitrogen charge. You cant do this at home.
(Unless is a Marzocchi Rocco, which are designed specifically to be home-serviceable).
No I wasnt. Rather unfortunately, in the past, ooh, 5 weeks, I've not touched a bike, other than at work! I stripped that Giant down out of boredom and I've only just this weekend got cracking with building the new one, a Deep Purple Dialled Alpine. Had a bit of a moment the other day when I popped out for a budget Post, Headset and clamp, and came back in with a Thomson, Hope, and Salsa fliplock... 
Should be done this week, would be good to meet up again, I've only done one trip to Wales since last time.
How did you find Dalby?
Should be done this week, would be good to meet up again, I've only done one trip to Wales since last time. How did you find Dalby?
In defence of Mojo (as if they need it) the workmanship and level of service is really outstanding. Just had my shock and forks back and they're new again. Touched up the paint, new stickers and a custom valve for my rather "robust" body and they ride better than new, I'm not just saying that, they're plusher and more "active" then they were from the shop.
I can change the oil and outer seals myself pretty easily (once my mate showed me how to do it the first time) but there's a huge difference between that and a proper service. If you're got ether a 32 or 36 Talas for example you need a special tool to open the system that'll cost more than the service.
Because they're local to me I always take my stuff in for it's service and the set-up is really good. Not to mention they're always on the side of the customer if you need warranty work done. In the first 12 months of ownership, my hamfisted riding style meant I've needed:
New stearer / stanchion / crown unit for my 36's
New lowers for 36's
Star fangled nut
Complete Talas Internals
Complete Internals for Pro-pedal unit for my DHX 5 Air, to be honest almost complete internals for the whole thing. Someone above mentioned how the oil is nitrogen packed, well when the Nitrogen bladder fails (ugly drops at Whites level) the shock gets up to some serious PSI. Put my shock pump onto it for check the pressure and it blew up covering my kitchen in manky oil ha ha.
Anyway they replaced the lot totally free of charge and they've been faultless ever since.
I know a new set of fork are going to cost me £700ish and a rear shock £300ish, better to lay out £100 to have them done by the experts than buy a new one because I've knackered it.
I can change the oil and outer seals myself pretty easily (once my mate showed me how to do it the first time) but there's a huge difference between that and a proper service. If you're got ether a 32 or 36 Talas for example you need a special tool to open the system that'll cost more than the service.
Because they're local to me I always take my stuff in for it's service and the set-up is really good. Not to mention they're always on the side of the customer if you need warranty work done. In the first 12 months of ownership, my hamfisted riding style meant I've needed:
New stearer / stanchion / crown unit for my 36's
New lowers for 36's
Star fangled nut
Complete Talas Internals
Complete Internals for Pro-pedal unit for my DHX 5 Air, to be honest almost complete internals for the whole thing. Someone above mentioned how the oil is nitrogen packed, well when the Nitrogen bladder fails (ugly drops at Whites level) the shock gets up to some serious PSI. Put my shock pump onto it for check the pressure and it blew up covering my kitchen in manky oil ha ha.
Anyway they replaced the lot totally free of charge and they've been faultless ever since.
I know a new set of fork are going to cost me £700ish and a rear shock £300ish, better to lay out £100 to have them done by the experts than buy a new one because I've knackered it.
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