Questionable Mclaren Tactics (Race Spoiler)
Questionable Mclaren Tactics (Race Spoiler)
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Clevers

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1,171 posts

230 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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That was a stupid approach to the race today by Mclaren.

Why try and drive for a fifth place finish when the car is a regular front runner.

I couldn't believe what I was watching.

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

276 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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they would have looked very silly for finishing behind a Toyota if Glock hadnt of had such a bad last lap.

Saying that though, always play the percentage game.

sniff diesel

13,125 posts

241 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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Clevers said:
Why try and drive for a fifth place finish when the car is a regular front runner.
Because when they overtake and try and win the FIA penalises them. Best bet was to stay out of trouble.

SamHH

5,078 posts

245 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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Maybe that's as fast as they could go.

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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Tony*T3 said:
they would have looked very silly for finishing behind a Toyota if Glock hadnt of had such a bad last lap.
If it hadn't rainedmhe would have still finished ahead. They played their strategy and have now won the WDC. What's the problem?

stuttgartmetal

8,154 posts

245 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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As the late great Bob Paisley would tell his Liverpool players, "if you're in front of the goal, stick it in, we'll argue whether it was right or wrong later."

McLaren did the perfect job.
Their boy has won.


Edited by stuttgartmetal on Sunday 2nd November 20:30

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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McLaren have a history of getting pit stops wrong when the circumstances change. Despite their efforts today, Hamilton got the result he needed!

Clevers

Original Poster:

1,171 posts

230 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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stuttgartmetal said:
As the late great Bob Paisley would tell his Liverpool players, "if you're in front of the goal, stick it in, we'll argue whether it was right or wrong later."

McLaren did the perfect job.
Their boy has won.


Edited by stuttgartmetal on Sunday 2nd November 20:30
Mate, let's face it, they lucked out big time on the last corner and their strategy nearly cost Lewis the WDC. If you need to finish 5th and you drive for that, then you're not leaving much margin for error are you ? The whole thing basically back fired on them and they were incredibly lucky today.

LeoSayer

7,820 posts

273 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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jacobyte said:
If it hadn't rainedmhe would have still finished ahead. They played their strategy and have now won the WDC. What's the problem?
The problem is that McLaren's strategy gave me a little heart attack.

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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I dont believe they were aiming for 5th place, even for Mclaren that would be a bit risky with Massa on such great form. I think they were just too slow.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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tomTVR said:
I dont believe they were aiming for 5th place, even for Mclaren that would be a bit risky with Massa on such great form. I think they were just too slow.
Were they too slow over the season, Tom?

mc_blue

2,548 posts

247 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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Was the pace not there? Think he did have to take it easy to some extent but hard to know how much this was the case.

Piglet

6,250 posts

284 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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Had they not changed tyres and had the rain fallen harder and had LH spun off and not finished you'd presumably have been cricising them?

Hindsight really is a wonderful thing!

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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10 Pence Short said:
tomTVR said:
I dont believe they were aiming for 5th place, even for Mclaren that would be a bit risky with Massa on such great form. I think they were just too slow.
Were they too slow over the season, Tom?
No but they were today (which is what we are talking about), ferrari blew them into the weeds. They were a bit too confident and it almost bit them in the behind.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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tomTVR said:
10 Pence Short said:
tomTVR said:
I dont believe they were aiming for 5th place, even for Mclaren that would be a bit risky with Massa on such great form. I think they were just too slow.
Were they too slow over the season, Tom?
No but they were today (which is what we are talking about), ferrari blew them into the weeds. They were a bit too confident and it almost bit them in the behind.
Ah, I see. A bit like a role reversal of China, then?

Tom, there have been a season's worth of races and, as close as it was, Hamilton and McLaren proved a better package than Massa and Ferrari. Massa will get another chance next season.

Fair enough?

Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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I think they were playing the "Kimi and Fernando could get fidgity and an overtake may result in an "accident" so we'll just sit tight back here and let them tootle along in their own race" type of game.

But feck me, I nearly died when Vettel went past, soooo lucky Glock didn't have the pace once it really rained.

I did actually feel sorry for Massa though, he just seems like such a nice fellow all round, but pleased as hell for Hamilton, and Ron Dennis. It kind of seemed like Karma for the Ferrari International Assistance decisions which happened this season.

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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10 Pence Short said:
Fair enough?
Yea over the season i am not complaining too much. There are plenty of if's and but's but its whats on the board what counts.

Just a shame about Glock from my point of view.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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tomTVR said:
10 Pence Short said:
tomTVR said:
I dont believe they were aiming for 5th place, even for Mclaren that would be a bit risky with Massa on such great form. I think they were just too slow.
Were they too slow over the season, Tom?
No but they were today (which is what we are talking about), ferrari blew them into the weeds. They were a bit too confident and it almost bit them in the behind.
unfortunate choice of words there Tom considering "the" binned images that we enjoyed.

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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Mojocvh said:
tomTVR said:
10 Pence Short said:
tomTVR said:
I dont believe they were aiming for 5th place, even for Mclaren that would be a bit risky with Massa on such great form. I think they were just too slow.
Were they too slow over the season, Tom?
No but they were today (which is what we are talking about), ferrari blew them into the weeds. They were a bit too confident and it almost bit them in the behind.
unfortunate choice of words there Tom considering "the" binned images that we enjoyed.
See what you did there wink

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,007 posts

264 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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Any strategy that yields the desired result is the correct one biggrin