BBC not allowed in paddock at Brazil
BBC not allowed in paddock at Brazil
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sniff diesel

Original Poster:

13,125 posts

241 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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Read a little snippet about this in the Independent today but can't find it on their website to quote it. Said something about Ecclestone not allowing BBC people that wanted to prepare for their 2009 coverage in the paddock at last Sunday's race. Seemed a bit cheeky of F1M to not issue them with the passes when the BBC have paid £200 million for the broadcasting rights.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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What about their radio team?

sniff diesel

Original Poster:

13,125 posts

241 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
What about their radio team?
I guess they must have been allowed in as usual, this was about giving their TV team for next year a preview of what to expect before having to do it for real next year.

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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Radio 5 were in the paddock
BBC TV will have to buy whatever material they want to use - which is fair enough I think.


xspencex

1,534 posts

265 months

Friday 7th November 2008
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It's probably a contractual issue with ITV who payed for the sole right to cover F1 up to and including the Brazil GP. BBC will commence thier contract sometime soon and I'm sure Bernie will protect thier contractual rights as well.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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As I commented elesewhere, the ITV rights obviously continued on past the actual day of the Brazilian GP. In "Talking Sport" on Monday night BBC were still unable to show any highlights of the race during their discussion on Hamilton's victory.

SamHH

5,078 posts

245 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
As I commented elesewhere, the ITV rights obviously continued on past the actual day of the Brazilian GP. In "Talking Sport" on Monday night BBC were still unable to show any highlights of the race during their discussion on Hamilton's victory.
I don't know much about this type of law, so correct me if I'm wrong, but won't ITV continue to own the UK rights to that Grand Prix and all the other Grand Prix they broadcast indefinitely?

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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ITV never owned the rights - they had permission to use F1 images/video etc for broadcast.

the Beeb would be able to negoitate with FOM to obtain rights to show the ITV years - at a cost no doubt


SamHH

5,078 posts

245 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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woof said:
ITV never owned the rights - they had permission to use F1 images/video etc for broadcast.
So the arrangement is that they hold that permission for a limited time only?

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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I would assume once you acquire the rights for the live coverage of F1, you also acquire the rights to show highlights from past seasons - no matter who had the rights for those years.
Bernie's "rights" cover all GPs back to and including the 1981 season. Film and video footage of races from earlier periods are not owned by any one organisation and are defintely not owned by Bernie.

DWP

1,232 posts

244 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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PW said:
According to Mike Doodson from Grandprix.com:

"You may be surprised to know that many of the technicians who form part of the small army trailing round behind the various ITV presenters and on-screen experts are employed by a commercial division of the BBC whose experts stayed in their jobs when the Corporation itself lost the F1 rights back in 1997."
The technicians and engineers were from the Outside Broadcast arm of BBC Resources. That they continued to sell their expertise to ITV caused a fair amount of ill feeling with BBC Sport. It all came about under John Birt, when he split the BBC in many different areas that charged each other for their services. The end result of that bizarre policy was a huge bureaucracy and the eventual sale of BBC Broadcast to SIS. Under that guise they will again provide the facilities for BBC Sport, now they have regained the rights to F1. Unfortunately nobody wants to buy the bureaucrats, who are strangling the BBC.

Teppic

8,076 posts

286 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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PW said:
According to Mike Doodson from Grandprix.com:

"You may be surprised to know that many of the technicians who form part of the small army trailing round behind the various ITV presenters and on-screen experts are employed by a commercial division of the BBC whose experts stayed in their jobs when the Corporation itself lost the F1 rights back in 1997."
yes

I remember seeing a picture in Autosport a few years back showing Murray Walker and Martin Brindle in the commentary box in 1999. There in the picture was a camera with both BBC and ITV logos on it.