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This morning, as per usual, there a 3 cars in the outside lane of a dual track, nt overtaking anything, at about 25mph. (its a 40)
everyone does it, either because of the scattering of parked cars, and a popluar right turn at the end.
So, as usual, I overtake on the inside, and pull round the parked cars ahead of them, and continue my way, back on the inside.
I get deliberatly followed from then on, by the leading lady, who is clearly writing my number on her hand while following.
So, assuming she reports me to the police, what will they say/do?
I would like them to say: "so madam, you were driving on the outside lane, not overtaking, and then proceeded to drive with no hands, in an agressive tailing manner...., you then come and accuse the driver, when technically, you have no training or licence to allow you to dictate waht is or isnt bad driving."
or will they say, "yes madam, we'll chase him up and give him a verbal..."
everyone does it, either because of the scattering of parked cars, and a popluar right turn at the end.
So, as usual, I overtake on the inside, and pull round the parked cars ahead of them, and continue my way, back on the inside.
I get deliberatly followed from then on, by the leading lady, who is clearly writing my number on her hand while following.
So, assuming she reports me to the police, what will they say/do?
I would like them to say: "so madam, you were driving on the outside lane, not overtaking, and then proceeded to drive with no hands, in an agressive tailing manner...., you then come and accuse the driver, when technically, you have no training or licence to allow you to dictate waht is or isnt bad driving."
or will they say, "yes madam, we'll chase him up and give him a verbal..."
ehasler said:Sorry, but you are wrong. The HC says, "139 ... stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left". the operative words here are "moving slowly" and "in queues". Nothing about moving at less than the speed limit.
I always thought (and may be completely wrong) that if the traffic in the outside lane is moving at less than the speed limit, you are allowed to pass them on the inside.
hedders said:The pity of it is that you would need to show just cause for "jumping on the brakes". Of course, there was taht dog that shot across the road in front of you
Personally , I would have considered jumping on my brakes and let her crash into me, see who gets done for due care and attention then...silly cow.
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streaky said:
I always thought (and may be completely wrong) that if the traffic in the outside lane is moving at less than the speed limit, you are allowed to pass them on the inside.
Sorry, but you are wrong. The HC says, "139 ... stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left". the operative words here are "moving slowly" and "in queues". Nothing about moving at less than the speed limit.
yes but the Highway code means nothing in law its a guide it has no legal standing what so ever.
streaky said:
Sorry, but you are wrong. The HC says, "139 ... stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left". the operative words here are "moving slowly" and "in queues". Nothing about moving at less than the speed limit.
That's pretty much what I meant though, but by "less than the speed limit" I mean slowly.
ehasler said:
Sorry, but you are wrong. The HC says, "139 ... stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left". the operative words here are "moving slowly" and "in queues". Nothing about moving at less than the speed limit.
What is slowly? I would say 25 in a 40 is slowly.
What is a queue? How close together do cars have to be to be a queue? I don't know but I bet a good solictor could argue nearly any distance.
That's pretty much what I meant though, but by "less than the speed limit" I mean slowly.
Whilst the Highway Code in itself has little or no legal standing, much of it's content is law.
Further to this, should you find yourself in Court for a driving offence and it can be shown that your actions / manner of driving were contrary to the standards of driving detailed in the Code, you will in all likelihood get convicted.
Further to this, should you find yourself in Court for a driving offence and it can be shown that your actions / manner of driving were contrary to the standards of driving detailed in the Code, you will in all likelihood get convicted.
voyds9 said:
What is slowly? I would say 25 in a 40 is slowly.
What is a queue? How close together do cars have to be to be a queue? I don't know but I bet a good solictor could argue nearly any distance.
Well, 'slowly is a relative term - the OED defines 'slow' in relation to 'quick'! However, I submit that it would be difficult to persuade a court that 25mph in a 30 limit was 'slow', or 40mph in a 50 limit. So again, we have the notion of a relative term. There might be case law on this, but it is for the court to decide what is and isn't 'slow' in a particular case.
As to a 'queue', the relevant definition in the OED appears to be: "A line of vehicles waiting to proceed." Now that's an interesting definition, as it implies that the vehicles must be stationary - 'waiting to proceed'. Again there might be case law, but common-sense should prevail and a queue should be taken to be moving (albeit 'slowly'
). However, common-sense appears to be as uncommon among the judiciary as it is among the legislators and many drivers one sees daily. In terms of spacing, that is again a matter of definition. A queue of people in the Post Office might be a matter of inches from each other, a queue of motor vehicles on the M25 at rush hour might also be inches from each other (and might be moving slightly, but not much, faster
), whereas a queue of aircraft arriving at an airport will be many hundreds of yards (or metres) apart. It's all relative ... as Einstein might have said!
Streaky
>> Edited by streaky on Wednesday 8th October 10:51
S2ooz I ran this type of scenario past my Police class 1 Ride & Drive instructor. He said he didn't have a problem with it. What he would have problem with is some one zig-zagging between the inside and outside lane at high speed just to "carve" through the traffic forcing everyone to take avoiding action if you see what I mean. So I think the woman that followed you will get short shrift if she reported you.
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