The necessary destruction of the political class.
Discussion
We are living in an increasingly authoritarian state where an increasing number of people are employed to impose gratuitous authority on their fellow citizen.
This class of functionary generates no wealth, delivers no useful service and is entirely parasitic.
If we were infested by lice or fleas we would do whatever was necessary to remove the pests and take measures to ensure they could not return. We should treat the parasitic state no differently.
Civilisation requires some apparatus of state to function, but far, far less than we currently have.
Public infrastructure, education and health make a deal of sense but there is no justification for the level of interference in the private lives of the citizenry.
We need a new small and servile state whose powers are strictly constrained, not just a new set of same old same old MPs.
This class of functionary generates no wealth, delivers no useful service and is entirely parasitic.
If we were infested by lice or fleas we would do whatever was necessary to remove the pests and take measures to ensure they could not return. We should treat the parasitic state no differently.
Civilisation requires some apparatus of state to function, but far, far less than we currently have.
Public infrastructure, education and health make a deal of sense but there is no justification for the level of interference in the private lives of the citizenry.
We need a new small and servile state whose powers are strictly constrained, not just a new set of same old same old MPs.
They were talking only today about a 'Milliband factory' where career politcians are made - degree in politics, go to work in a think tank and emerge at the ripe old age of 25 telling us how to run our lives.
Once politicians had proper careers first and were politicians second. Needless to say the country was far more sensibly run then.
Once politicians had proper careers first and were politicians second. Needless to say the country was far more sensibly run then.
Saw "Sicko" by Michael Moore and there was an interview on their with Tony Benn - he nailed the current political "leaders" colours straight to the mast and by god it wasn't a pretty sight. Basically control by fear and submission.
Whether you like Michael Moore or not, this was a very thought provoking film.
Whether you like Michael Moore or not, this was a very thought provoking film.
Totally agree. Most of these *******'s have little or no experience of the real world, having, as previosuly stated, been to a good school, read political science or similar at a good university and then gone straight from there to 'work' for the Labour party (for example). How can we possibly respect their decisions, especially when most of those decisions are questionable at best?Perhaps some sort of rules about future MPs etc having to have been averagely successful or better at something in the real world - business; health; police; armed forces; teaching etc? At least then we'd stand a chance of them knowing what the f
k they're talking about, and what the effect of their decisions on the average taxpaying citizen is?It runs deeper than the mindless state bureaucracy that wages a quiet campaign of oppression on the law-abiding citizen who pays thier wages. The problem is with a political class, on all sides of the political spectrum that increasingly thinks it knows better and is increasingly living in a world of disconnection frm reality.
On questions of climate change/"global warming", taxation, the nature of public services, the size of the state, Europe, international relations (Russia, China, Africa and developing naitons) and criminal justice, the workings of our political classes - Government, opposition, Parliament, seem to bear little relation to reality. Furthermore there appears to be a form of corruption, justified in the minds of this elite that sees the likes of Mandelson and Osborne hob-nob with a Russian oligarch with organised crime connections and the peddling of influence by vested interests far more ingrained than in the days when it was blatent bribery. The political classses are also happy to co-ecist with a criminal justice system that is criinal in its inconsistent, overly liberal and morally perverted dispensation of a cruel parody of justice. It seems impossible to challenge this status quo - the media is too lazy and corrupted itself to do it while the electorate is sleep-walking slowly towards a situation that will be painted as acceptable but will be as bad than the worst autocratic non-democratic regimes.
This is not democracy.
On questions of climate change/"global warming", taxation, the nature of public services, the size of the state, Europe, international relations (Russia, China, Africa and developing naitons) and criminal justice, the workings of our political classes - Government, opposition, Parliament, seem to bear little relation to reality. Furthermore there appears to be a form of corruption, justified in the minds of this elite that sees the likes of Mandelson and Osborne hob-nob with a Russian oligarch with organised crime connections and the peddling of influence by vested interests far more ingrained than in the days when it was blatent bribery. The political classses are also happy to co-ecist with a criminal justice system that is criinal in its inconsistent, overly liberal and morally perverted dispensation of a cruel parody of justice. It seems impossible to challenge this status quo - the media is too lazy and corrupted itself to do it while the electorate is sleep-walking slowly towards a situation that will be painted as acceptable but will be as bad than the worst autocratic non-democratic regimes.
This is not democracy.
fluffnik said:
We are living in an increasingly authoritarian state where an increasing number of people are employed to impose gratuitous authority on their fellow citizen.
This class of functionary generates no wealth, delivers no useful service and is entirely parasitic.
If we were infested by lice or fleas we would do whatever was necessary to remove the pests and take measures to ensure they could not return. We should treat the parasitic state no differently.
Civilisation requires some apparatus of state to function, but far, far less than we currently have.
Public infrastructure, education and health make a deal of sense but there is no justification for the level of interference in the private lives of the citizenry.
We need a new small and servile state whose powers are strictly constrained, not just a new set of same old same old MPs.
3/10, Fluffy.This class of functionary generates no wealth, delivers no useful service and is entirely parasitic.
If we were infested by lice or fleas we would do whatever was necessary to remove the pests and take measures to ensure they could not return. We should treat the parasitic state no differently.
Civilisation requires some apparatus of state to function, but far, far less than we currently have.
Public infrastructure, education and health make a deal of sense but there is no justification for the level of interference in the private lives of the citizenry.
We need a new small and servile state whose powers are strictly constrained, not just a new set of same old same old MPs.
No mention of nasty speed limits or the word 'arbitrary'; come on, old chap!
Wiki said:
David Wright Miliband MP, (born 15 July 1965) is a British politician who is the current Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs and Member of Parliament for the constituency of South Shields.
Born in London and majoring in politics at universities in England and the US, David Miliband's early career was as a policy analyst at the Institute for Public Policy Research. At 29, Miliband became Tony Blair's Head of Policy whilst the Labour Party was then in opposition and was a major contributor to Labour's manifesto for the 1997 general election which brought the party to power. Blair made him head of the Prime Minister's Policy Unit from 1997 to 2001, following which Miliband was elected to parliament for the north-east England seat of South Shields.
So he's never had a real job has he?Born in London and majoring in politics at universities in England and the US, David Miliband's early career was as a policy analyst at the Institute for Public Policy Research. At 29, Miliband became Tony Blair's Head of Policy whilst the Labour Party was then in opposition and was a major contributor to Labour's manifesto for the 1997 general election which brought the party to power. Blair made him head of the Prime Minister's Policy Unit from 1997 to 2001, following which Miliband was elected to parliament for the north-east England seat of South Shields.
Eric Mc said:
And the alternative is...........?
Smaller less intrusive government.Fewer petty laws.
Usually when SomethingMustBeDone it doesn't, so we end up with all sorts of unnecessary fixes for problems we didn't have until a parasitic bureaucratic overhead was imposed.
What we have is an elective dictatorship which throws its weight around where it is not needed, what we need is a liberal democracy that protects rather than constrains its citizens' freedoms.
The current financial climate is a socialists dream , gives them every excuse for yet another "New World Order" in which Ingsoc can control or dominate the proles .
The one saving grace at the moment is that the current Messiah , and all the Obama worship , will come to a stop once the US protectionist attitude kicks in , and people come to realise that left wing US style , is still more right wing than it's European counterpart.
The one saving grace at the moment is that the current Messiah , and all the Obama worship , will come to a stop once the US protectionist attitude kicks in , and people come to realise that left wing US style , is still more right wing than it's European counterpart.
fluffnik said:
We are living in an increasingly authoritarian state where an increasing number of people are employed to impose gratuitous authority on their fellow citizen.
This class of functionary generates no wealth, delivers no useful service and is entirely parasitic.
If we were infested by lice or fleas we would do whatever was necessary to remove the pests and take measures to ensure they could not return. We should treat the parasitic state no differently.
Civilisation requires some apparatus of state to function, but far, far less than we currently have.
Public infrastructure, education and health make a deal of sense but there is no justification for the level of interference in the private lives of the citizenry.
We need a new small and servile state whose powers are strictly constrained, not just a new set of same old same old MPs.
Fluffnik, just for you......This class of functionary generates no wealth, delivers no useful service and is entirely parasitic.
If we were infested by lice or fleas we would do whatever was necessary to remove the pests and take measures to ensure they could not return. We should treat the parasitic state no differently.
Civilisation requires some apparatus of state to function, but far, far less than we currently have.
Public infrastructure, education and health make a deal of sense but there is no justification for the level of interference in the private lives of the citizenry.
We need a new small and servile state whose powers are strictly constrained, not just a new set of same old same old MPs.
"It is we the workers who built these palaces and cities here in Spain and in America and everywhere. We, the workers, can build others to take their place. And better ones! We are not in the least afraid of ruins. We are going to inherit the earth; there is not the slightest doubt about that. The bourgeoisie might blast and ruin its own world before it leaves the stage of history. We carry a new world here, in our hearts. That world is growing this minute."
Viva !
mondeoman said:
Saw "Sicko" by Michael Moore and there was an interview on their with Tony Benn - he nailed the current political "leaders" colours straight to the mast and by god it wasn't a pretty sight. Basically control by fear and submission.
Whether you like Michael Moore or not, this was a very thought provoking film.
Hmmm, but Tony has no exeperience of anything other than politics either.Whether you like Michael Moore or not, this was a very thought provoking film.
Sam_68 said:
fluffnik said:
I campaign against incumbent electeds in RealLife® too...
I don't think it much matters where you do it, just talking about it ain't gonna get you anywhere...Spare us the curse of the career politician. No beliefs, no goals, no aspirations other than self or party. The vast majority seem to be Spineless invertibrates.
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