Real BEC performance figures?
Real BEC performance figures?
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leemarkadams

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854 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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Hello, as I am so indecisive about what to get (as a toy) I was wondering what are the real world performance figures of a BEC, say a SEiW witha Fireblade or R1 engine? Things like 0-60, 1/4 mile times etc

Thanks

Lee

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

248 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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Hopefully i will be able to confirm these figures properly next year!

But it is pretty SAFE to say an R1 will hit 60mph in a low 4 and 1/4 mile in a low 13. Safe, as some may be faster due to lower diff gearing / smaller wheels / sticky tyres. A BEC is difficult to do a Banzai 0-60 as there is no flywheel effect, so you cannot give it 5,000 and dump the clutch . It will either stall or burnout, depending what mood it is in! Modulation for a racing start is tricky due to this. All are different weights / tyres / ratios ect. But a BEC makes up more time through sheer lightweight and 50/50 balance in the handling department, something like a Vauxhall Redtop can fell like there is a small child sitting in the engine bay in comparison, let alone a V8 version! Westfield surely posted official figures for the Megablade / Megabird /Megabusa? An R1 will be about Megabird performance. The only comparision I can make is my R1 Phoenix is VERY similar laptime to a Caterham R400.

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

248 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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I have had both a Fireblade and an R1 powered kit, and would say that the R1 does not FEEL significantly faster although it is. All due to the gearing, my R1 is geared for about 10mph more top speed. GET A RIDE IN ONE, YOU MAY HATE THEM!

Hobzy

1,271 posts

235 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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Had mine a few months and not had much practice, but managed to get 4.5 secs 0-60 on the racetechnology datalogger... So low 4s is about average probably once you know what you are doing and dont have a passenger biggrin I'm in Hants, If you want a ride give me a shout wink

Edited by Hobzy on Saturday 8th November 18:04

leemarkadams

Original Poster:

854 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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Hobzy, may well take you up on the offer this time. When would be a good time with yourself?

Just want to convince the wife, as she wants me to get a tuscan (but they are a LOT more money and a LOT LOT more to run!).

Thanks

Lee

Hobzy

1,271 posts

235 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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Ah thought I recognised the name. I am away next weekend, but after that around til xmas AFAIK. I can do the odd evening but the nights have drawn in and it is a very different experience in the dark! Just give me a shout and I'll be round - It'll cost you a cuppa though. I'll even take the missus out if you like wink

leemarkadams

Original Poster:

854 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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Thanks mate, really appreciate that, I am available at any time really, until I get better then I am away again until Mid March!!!

Let me know when is good with yourself.

Lee

matt frost

783 posts

275 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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I would say any BEC will shock you first of all in the first couple of gears, and they will leave just about everything on the road...but 0-60 isn't really important, its how they go round track that counts and is what they are about.

Edited by matt frost on Monday 10th November 14:43

robcollingridge

633 posts

307 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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I found setting good 0-60mph and 0-100mph times very hard to do in my Fury R1 and kind of gave up trying in the end. You have to be pretty brutal on the car to hit the claimed figures found in magazines, forums, etc.

Most important to me is that it feels quick compared to other more normal cars I've owned (Elise, Impreza Turbo, etc.). This helps keep one toe back in the real world when you are driving on public roads. My Impreza would cruise on up to 120+mph far too easily for my liking and it never felt quick.

The Fury is far too quick to be driven in anger on UK roads. The acceleration between corners and the ability to overtake is hard to match with any CEC, simply because it is so light and involving.

On the track, it's generally my ability that is limiting how fast it goes but it flatters with its handling and performance. You need ability and dedicated track day material (Radical, Atom, R500, etc.) to go much quicker.

Hobzy

1,271 posts

235 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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robcollingridge said:
I found setting good 0-60mph and 0-100mph times very hard to do in my Fury R1 and kind of gave up trying in the end. You have to be pretty brutal on the car to hit the claimed figures found in magazines, forums, etc.

Most important to me is that it feels quick compared to other more normal cars I've owned (Elise, Impreza Turbo, etc.). This helps keep one toe back in the real world when you are driving on public roads. My Impreza would cruise on up to 120+mph far too easily for my liking and it never felt quick.

The Fury is far too quick to be driven in anger on UK roads. The acceleration between corners and the ability to overtake is hard to match with any CEC, simply because it is so light and involving.

On the track, it's generally my ability that is limiting how fast it goes but it flatters with its handling and performance. You need ability and dedicated track day material (Radical, Atom, R500, etc.) to go much quicker.
Absolutely agree. I find myself driving completely differently to how i drove my tin top: much slower down the lanes as the pure enjoyement of being able to look all around you with no pillars/glass in the way, makes journeys special, with a good blat down the clear bits of course. There is definitely a more intense feeling of vulnerability in the narrow lanes and I now realise just how much risk I was taking in the tin top because of the "cocooning" effect.

Junctions are a whole different ball game too, looking much further ahead to minimise the number of stop-starts (pulling away from stand-still without a stall or spinning up is something I'm still not perfect at!) means I feel (rightly or wrongly) that I am a much more considerate and aware driver than I ever was in my MINI...

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

225 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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I find myself being much more aware of what's going on around me having had my 7 for 2 years. There's just too many idiots who can't see a bright yellow car with it's lights on during the day! You either have to learn to be more aware or risk getting run over in a car that's so low many just don't see it coming.

Ipelm

522 posts

216 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Especially bikers who are so high up compared to us they just dont see us coming, have had a couple of near misses!!

Edited by Ipelm on Monday 17th November 20:56

mikeveal

5,058 posts

274 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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I'm in agreement with Rob & Hozby. My Skunk is soooo fast that I no longer take the bait of a burn alongside a Scoobies etc. Infact it is very rare that I use 100% throttle, and even rarer that I get to 100% throttle in the power band.

On single track country lanes, I am very aware of how vunerable I am. A few weeks ago a tractor pullled over to let me past and I declined on the basis that I know how many blind bends there were and I know haow fast I used to drive my tin top along that road.

It's not all pipe and slippers though. On a clear road, with good conditions, the Skunk is a blast. Driving around gently is great fun, but the odd hoon will leave you smiling for the rest of the week.

Strange how driving a faster car acts to slow you down. In the Skunk, I am driving to my limits, not the limits of the car.