M42 mandatory speed signs !
M42 mandatory speed signs !
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Dr Prod

Original Poster:

543 posts

237 months

Saturday 8th November 2008
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Useless....I'd like to know what tosser operates them.....

Puff Puff

22,838 posts

248 months

Sunday 9th November 2008
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That'll be the Highways Agency.

Munter

31,330 posts

263 months

Sunday 9th November 2008
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Yeah I used to hate getting home 20 mins or so earlier when they were in use. Twas a right bh having to spend more time at home rather than in traffic....

scratchchin

cheeky_chops

1,620 posts

273 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Munter said:
Yeah I used to hate getting home 20 mins or so earlier when they were in use. Twas a right bh having to spend more time at home rather than in traffic....

scratchchin
yep - given i have used the M42 on and off for jobs over the last 12+ years, id much rather cruise home stress free @ 50 in 15 mins than stop/start/stop/start for 30mins

Richair

1,021 posts

219 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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It really is an epitome; all those faster, more reliable journey times; reduced accident rates and don't even get me started on the increased capacity!!

The figures speak for themselves; both as a motorist and as a professional traffic engineer I think the scheme is bloody brilliant!

The one good, innovative project which somebody at the HA has obviously stuck their neck out to achieve. smile

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

291 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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'Tis still annoying when they still have the 50 limit set at 20:00 when there are a lot less vehicles about. I think it is a good idea during the big peak times and the use of the hard shoulder also helps a lot.

I've never seen any of the results from the no HGV overtaking project further up the M42 towards the M1. I remember thinking that a lot of vans didn't want it to show any posative results as they used to keep pace with the HGVs.

Edited by Bob the Planner on Thursday 13th November 15:19

smiller

12,329 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Having had to travel to the Watford office regularly over the last month or so (from Telford), I've had a fair bit of time on the '42 at peak periods, as well as (depending on where the tailbacks are) the '40 or M1.

I must admit, that the 42 - in Active Management mode - isn't too bad. The traffic generally moves quite well and only comes to a halt when sheer weight of traffic renders the signage meaningless: "Queue Ahead. Caution. 40mph" when you are stationary. No sh!t, Sherlock.

Yet last week I came back from Watford using M1 / M6 / M6 Toll, and on the M1 North I managed to get above .7 leptons for one 5 mile stretch between Luton and the M6 junction. The rest of the time all three lanes were on tippy toe, dabbing their brakes between 40 and 60 mph with no room to seek some decent braking space. Frustrating and faintly dangerous in equal measures. Then again, on the 42 when the variable limits vary (!?!) between 40 / 50 / 40 / 60 / 40 etc between gantries, it's equally infuriating having to adjust my cruise control every mile or so hehe

In such cases, the junction for the M6 Toll shines like a beacon.

heebeegeetee

29,826 posts

270 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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At night they have different speeds for different lanes, 20mph in lane 1 and 40 or 50 in the others. I've asked vonhosen on another thread what he would do in this situ, but for some reason he's keeping schtum.

Puff Puff

22,838 posts

248 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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heebeegeetee said:
At night they have different speeds for different lanes, 20mph in lane 1 and 40 or 50 in the others. I've asked vonhosen on another thread what he would do in this situ, but for some reason he's keeping schtum.
Not so smart if you join the M42 in lane 1 at 20mph then move to lane 2 into a traffic flow running twice as fast - but I guess we can all handle that, eh?

I can see the need to 'protect workforce in road' which is what is displayed on the matrix signs but more often than not, when I've travelled this stretch at night, there has been no workforce at work nor any sign of them, their vehicles or any cones.

heebeegeetee

29,826 posts

270 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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Puff Puff said:
heebeegeetee said:
At night they have different speeds for different lanes, 20mph in lane 1 and 40 or 50 in the others. I've asked vonhosen on another thread what he would do in this situ, but for some reason he's keeping schtum.
Not so smart if you join the M42 in lane 1 at 20mph then move to lane 2 into a traffic flow running twice as fast - but I guess we can all handle that, eh?

I can see the need to 'protect workforce in road' which is what is displayed on the matrix signs but more often than not, when I've travelled this stretch at night, there has been no workforce at work nor any sign of them, their vehicles or any cones.
Yep, the roads are nigh on empty anyway, and in all the roadworks all around the country elsewhere, they manage fine with a 50 limit. They don't seem to think a 20 limit is needed. laugh

Philrose

481 posts

264 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Some of those cameras are active and adjust to the variable speed limits operating. I know I got done by one going southbound between the M6 junction and the A45. 53 when set at 40 - furious

Richair

1,021 posts

219 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Philrose said:
Some of those cameras are active and adjust to the variable speed limits operating. I know I got done by one going southbound between the M6 junction and the A45. 53 when set at 40 - furious
At least one active camera on each link wink So says the HA's design guidance on Managed Motorways anyways...

It's not like the speed limit isn't advertised enough tongue out or was it one of lapse of concentration 'oh crap im on the motorway and the speed limit isn't 70mph' moments DOH!!!!!