Objecting to planning permission
Objecting to planning permission
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ridds

Original Poster:

8,371 posts

273 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Any hints from people who have done this before.

Situation is this.

House converted to flats next door has a large garden. The owner now wants to put a new single storey addition to the property on the back of the current house to add another flat. He's done the usual trick and sent us a nice information pack with all the plans and a list of reasons why it should go ahead, disabled living, evironmentally friendly, using the funds from this property to tidy the current house that's mess.

I personally don't think there's any need for more flats in our road, the flat next door to me struggled to sell 6 months ago and ended up being rented out.

My main issues are that the modifications to the current house mean that there will be a new window added to the first floor flat that will look directly into our kitchen. Also there's already little parking and adding another property will potentially add 2 more cars on the street. Combine this with weekend seaside traffic and sometimes it's impossible to find a space.

It is also going to cause disruption to the area and more than likely all right outside my front door as all the access will be between the two houses.

Now I've never had to deal with anything like this before and could do with some pointers.

Cheers!

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Just write to the council outlining your objections. But keep them "objective". Loss of privacy is a big one!

bimsb6

8,746 posts

250 months

richyb

4,615 posts

239 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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You should have a strong case if the proposed windows look directly over your property etc. Contact your local council planning department and ask the correct objection procedure.

TommyTT

460 posts

236 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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NIMBY`s rolleyes

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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The Council's Planning Dept usually write to immediate neighbours when applications are made to ask if they object.
You can also log into your Council's website and search in the Planning Dept's section for any applications which have already been lodged at that address.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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TommyTT said:
NIMBY`s rolleyes
Unless they are bona fide objections! I agree may people have a knee jerk reaction to planning applications!

diesel head

391 posts

238 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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You need to look through the local development plan for your area, (they are usual on your councils web page) write a letter of objection to the planning department quoting as many objections under the local development plan as you can find (not forgetting to quote the clauses) also noting that the window will look directly into your kitchen and the car parking issues.

As there are objections the planning application should then go to the planning committee at which point you and your nieghbour will be given 3 mins to state your case to the councilors who will then vote on a decision.

You will not have a great deal of time to write your letter so you need to make contact with planning department asap to find out the length of the public consultation period.

Busamav

2,954 posts

237 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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What council are you under ?

Disruption from the works does not constitute a reason for refusal so don't mention that .

As a previous post , keep it to planning grounds only .

Off road parking and loss of privacy are high on the planners list , will it be overbearing on your property / garden, thats a good one ?

If there are a number of objections , the application will be listed and it will go to comittee , be careful , this is not always best.

Keep in contact with the planning office , they could be refusing it under delegated powers , but
if it goes to the blue rinse , they can ignore the planners recomendations and you could end up shooting yourself in the foot .


ridds

Original Poster:

8,371 posts

273 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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Well outcome is that it's going ahead.

Window has been deleted from the plans, parking for 3 cars must be allocated on the property and the wind turbine was rejected.

Went and saw the objections from 10 local residents. Amazing what some people objected too.

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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garyhun said:
Just write to the council outlining your objections. But keep them "objective". Loss of privacy is a big one!
Just ask Glassman!!!!

kayos

220 posts

253 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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ridds said:
Amazing what some people objected too.
What?

JagLover

46,738 posts

264 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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ridds said:
Well outcome is that it's going ahead.

Window has been deleted from the plans, parking for 3 cars must be allocated on the property and the wind turbine was rejected.
Sounds like a good result, well done.

mark69sheer

3,906 posts

231 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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ridds said:
Well outcome is that it's going ahead.

Window has been deleted from the plans, parking for 3 cars must be allocated on the property and the wind turbine was rejected.

Went and saw the objections from 10 local residents. Amazing what some people objected too.
despite window being deleted does the new structure imping on your right to light?

If this new structure leaves your kitchen in continual shade you may still have an objection unless you are happy that is with the changes.

To comply with right to light generally less than half the room must be in continual shade.

ridds

Original Poster:

8,371 posts

273 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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mark69sheer said:
ridds said:
Well outcome is that it's going ahead.

Window has been deleted from the plans, parking for 3 cars must be allocated on the property and the wind turbine was rejected.

Went and saw the objections from 10 local residents. Amazing what some people objected too.
despite window being deleted does the new structure imping on your right to light?

If this new structure leaves your kitchen in continual shade you may still have an objection unless you are happy that is with the changes.

To comply with right to light generally less than half the room must be in continual shade.
The plans are very clever. It's a single storey property that is pretty much hidden below the fence line (line of sight). It doesn't impose in our property it's just the cramming in of more people into an already run down property.

Complaints ranged from:
Noise from the windturbine, tiny thing, at the bottom of the garden. A good 25m from any property.
Rain water collecting tank, an underground one.
Dust.
Increased building traffic.
State of the current property.
Person to dwelling ratio calcualtions.
etc,

THese were all from people over 4-5 houses away.

bradders

889 posts

300 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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mark69sheer said:
ridds said:
Well outcome is that it's going ahead.

Window has been deleted from the plans, parking for 3 cars must be allocated on the property and the wind turbine was rejected.

Went and saw the objections from 10 local residents. Amazing what some people objected too.
despite window being deleted does the new structure imping on your right to light?

If this new structure leaves your kitchen in continual shade you may still have an objection unless you are happy that is with the changes.

To comply with right to light generally less than half the room must be in continual shade.
Would need to check into this, but from distant memory, right to light has been replaced/revamped by visual amenity rulings - which do not include sunlight/shade.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

274 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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bradders said:
Would need to check into this, but from distant memory, right to light has been replaced/revamped by visual amenity rulings - which do not include sunlight/shade.
Overshadowing is still a valid planning consideration. If it comes down to arguing whether something is acceptable of not, Planning Departments (or the Appeals Inspectorate) usually make reference to a BRE document called 'Site layout planning for daylight and sunlight - a good practice guide'. The methodology given in this document is quite complex, so I won't even begin to try to describe it here, but suffice it to say that it's complex enough to scare many small developers or Planning Officers into caving in when it is mentioned in relation to a planning objection, anyway.

...though you do get the occasional awkward bugger like me, who uses it as a tool to justify development, because if you know what you're doing, it's usually easy enough to prove that overshadowing is not a problem in pretty much all cases.