Another Russian Sub Accident

[Jimbeaux]

Sorry if Repost; I did not see this topic.

I suppose Russians need an incentive to serve on subs these days. This one was new out of the box:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7718156.stm

[DBSV8]

Jimbeaux said:

Sorry if Repost; I did not see this topic.

I suppose Russians need an incentive to serve on subs these days. This one was new out of the box:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7718156.stm

Another tragic accident , alot of the sailors were conscripts serving their national service,
A chap in our office served for 2 years in Vladivostock
the sub is being leased to the indian navy for sea trials, Probably never get to see the investigation report , sounds very much like the fire control system was activated either by mistake ( commisioning tests ) and personnel were trapped inside the compartment when Freon was re-leased ,

http://today.rambler.ru/Russia/head/1167533/

Edited by DBSV8 on Tuesday 11th November 03:17

[whirligig]

Horrible way to go. My O/H is away serving on a sub at the moment and things like this are the last thing I want to read about!

[phumy]

Im not sure that Freon gas is actually used as an extinguisher of fires, maybe it was Halon. I do know from experience that Freon, when burnt, gives off the gas Phosgene, which apparently was used in the trenches in WW1 and killed so many. That is why Freon is now not used as a Domestic refrigerant in the UK and other countries.

Edited to say: Infact Halon is not used in the UK any more for putting out fires either.

Edited by phumy on Tuesday 11th November 08:13

[Jasandjules]

A sad loss, when it was so pointless.

[Kuroblack350]

whirligig said:

Horrible way to go. My O/H is away serving on a sub at the moment and things like this are the last thing I want to read about!

Having been a part of Submarine development in the UK for some time, rest assured our boats are a world apart in terms of health and safety in general - in fact the same goes for most 'western' Navies.

Russian standards just aren't that good, and this is due to a thousand reasons, the single most prominent factor being proper training.

[DBSV8]

Kuroblack350 said:

[Russian standards just aren't that good, and this is due to a thousand reasons, the single most prominent factor being proper training.

Russian standards are actually very comprehensive , They use the SNIP Format and are heavily regulated , However training & competency is another issue , One reason its keeping me in a job over here.

[Jimbeaux]

DBSV8 said:

Jimbeaux said:

Sorry if Repost; I did not see this topic.

I suppose Russians need an incentive to serve on subs these days. This one was new out of the box:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7718156.stm

Another tragic accident , alot of the sailors were conscripts serving their national service,
A chap in our office served for 2 years in Vladivostock
the sub is being leased to the indian navy for sea trials, Probably never get to see the investigation report , sounds very much like the fire control system was activated either by mistake ( commisioning tests ) and personnel were trapped inside the compartment when Freon was re-leased ,

http://today.rambler.ru/Russia/head/1167533/

Edited by DBSV8 on Tuesday 11th November 03:17

Reports suggest that the sea trial folks were not trained to respond to the emergency systems that contributed to their deaths.

[davido140]

phumy said:

Edited to say: Infact Halon is not used in the UK any more for putting out fires either.

Edited by phumy on Tuesday 11th November 08:13

+1 I've seen someone passout when Halon was released, if some bright spark hadnt pulled them out of the room pronto they wouldnt be around to tell the tale apparently.

Not sure what its been replaced with but see plenty of "gas" based fire supression stuff.

[phumy]

davido140 said:

phumy said:

Edited to say: Infact Halon is not used in the UK any more for putting out fires either.

Edited by phumy on Tuesday 11th November 08:13

+1 I've seen someone passout when Halon was released, if some bright spark hadnt pulled them out of the room pronto they wouldnt be around to tell the tale apparently.

Not sure what its been replaced with but see plenty of "gas" based fire supression stuff.

CO2!!!!