Dealing with Other Peoples Bailiffs
Discussion
Right, got home today, picked up and opened post, and read a bold headline 'DO NOT IGNORE THIS LETTER', and a demand for over £300. A quick glance up at the top shows it's for a previous tenant of the property.
Obviously I cant just sellotape it up, stick it back in the post with a note on the front saying not at this address...who'd believe that.
Anyway, where do we stand if they send bailiffs round? Whats the procedure? My wife is usually in with our 1 year old son, so obviously we dont want people forcing their way in. I've no first hand experience of bailiffs, but from what i've seen on TV, and read about them, they are usually bullying b
ds.
We are obviously nothing to do with this previous guy, but how much effort is involved in convincing these people that we are not him, and for them to bugger off and leave us alone.
Obviously I cant just sellotape it up, stick it back in the post with a note on the front saying not at this address...who'd believe that.
Anyway, where do we stand if they send bailiffs round? Whats the procedure? My wife is usually in with our 1 year old son, so obviously we dont want people forcing their way in. I've no first hand experience of bailiffs, but from what i've seen on TV, and read about them, they are usually bullying b
ds.We are obviously nothing to do with this previous guy, but how much effort is involved in convincing these people that we are not him, and for them to bugger off and leave us alone.
I had this - the DVLA registered someone's scooter at my address and I got all his fines.
Send them a photocopy of your council tax bill along with a letter stating that you are the sole occupiers of the property, and that he no longer lives there. Be polite and friendly.
That should be enough to sort the problem and they will send the case back to the originator saying the guy could not be traced.
You might phone them beforehand and check to see if they might need anything else.
Send them a photocopy of your council tax bill along with a letter stating that you are the sole occupiers of the property, and that he no longer lives there. Be polite and friendly.
That should be enough to sort the problem and they will send the case back to the originator saying the guy could not be traced.
You might phone them beforehand and check to see if they might need anything else.
Best bet would be to call the bailiff company and tell them the person they're after no longer lives there. My sister had this happen one of the flats she lets, she just called them and explained that the tenent who it applied to no longer lived there and gave them his new address.
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Adam
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Adam
As above, and what ever happens DO NOT LET THEM IN. Once they have been invited to cross your threshold, they will ALWAYS have a legal right to enter the premesis. If they get pushy at the door, ask them politely to leave and tell them you are calling the Police for trespass as you do not grant them permission on your land.
I had no end of problems when I first moved into my current house, with bailiff letters and all sorts arriving daily for the previous tennants (suffice it to say that there were at least 10 more names on the various letters than there are bedrooms in this house). I just sent back ALL mail to names that I didn't recognise with "Not known at this address".
Occasionally the baillifs would post a card through the door asking me to contact them directly, a quick phone call usually straightened things out. Same thing when plod arrived (turned out the cheeky fkers had registered a bunch of cars here, waited 'till they'd moved out and gone on a bilking spree).
Interestingly, both plod and the baillifs were a lot more understanding when they noticed that the names on all of the letters were from...ahem...a certain social group
Occasionally the baillifs would post a card through the door asking me to contact them directly, a quick phone call usually straightened things out. Same thing when plod arrived (turned out the cheeky f
kers had registered a bunch of cars here, waited 'till they'd moved out and gone on a bilking spree).Interestingly, both plod and the baillifs were a lot more understanding when they noticed that the names on all of the letters were from...ahem...a certain social group
Thanks for the reply's.
We dont have the guys new address, and he's not the previous tenant, but the one before that I guess.
I would hope that if anyone knocked on the door, then simply showing them our ID would be enough, but you never know if you get some bully who see's a woman at home with her child and tries to be intimidating towards her.
I'll contact them and see what comes of it.
We dont have the guys new address, and he's not the previous tenant, but the one before that I guess.
I would hope that if anyone knocked on the door, then simply showing them our ID would be enough, but you never know if you get some bully who see's a woman at home with her child and tries to be intimidating towards her.
I'll contact them and see what comes of it.
I had this at my last place. I phoned them (after ignoring the first 5 or 6 letters) and told them it was a previous owner. They asked for the name of the estate/letting agent I used when I moved in, and that was that.
They did ask for my phone number so that they could contact me if they needed to, but I didn't give it to them. Never heard anything else.
They did ask for my phone number so that they could contact me if they needed to, but I didn't give it to them. Never heard anything else.
Have a read of this....
http://pistonheads.co.uk/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&...
Anyway, a strong letter mentioning harassment seems to have done the trick....
http://pistonheads.co.uk/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&...
Anyway, a strong letter mentioning harassment seems to have done the trick....
SS HSV said:
As above, and what ever happens DO NOT LET THEM IN.
That bit is important: not to use the loo, not to phone back to HQ to check details, not because they've had a funny turn and need to sit down. Don't let them set a foot over the threshold ever, under any circumstances, because it grants them very substantial rights in future.
GreenV8S said:
SS HSV said:
As above, and what ever happens DO NOT LET THEM IN.
That bit is important: not to use the loo, not to phone back to HQ to check details, not because they've had a funny turn and need to sit down. Don't let them set a foot over the threshold ever, under any circumstances, because it grants them very substantial rights in future.
GreenV8S said:
SS HSV said:
As above, and what ever happens DO NOT LET THEM IN.
That bit is important: not to use the loo, not to phone back to HQ to check details, not because they've had a funny turn and need to sit down. Don't let them set a foot over the threshold ever, under any circumstances, because it grants them very substantial rights in future.GreenV8S said:
SS HSV said:
As above, and what ever happens DO NOT LET THEM IN.
That bit is important: not to use the loo, not to phone back to HQ to check details, not because they've had a funny turn and need to sit down. Don't let them set a foot over the threshold ever, under any circumstances, because it grants them very substantial rights in future.This is interesting; but why isn't permission to enter a premises an ongoing consensual thing? You might let someone in your door who seems friendly at first but then starts threatening you; surely you should be able to, based on changing circumstances or even just your own choice say "Get out of my house"?
AFAIK sex is an ongoing consensual thing (consent can change during), why isn't something like entering a premises?
GreenV8S said:
SS HSV said:
As above, and what ever happens DO NOT LET THEM IN.
That bit is important: not to use the loo, not to phone back to HQ to check details, not because they've had a funny turn and need to sit down. Don't let them set a foot over the threshold ever, under any circumstances, because it grants them very substantial rights in future.I dont know hoe much truth there is in net letting them in, there as massive amounts of laws regarding them now. (unless its a loan shark in which case say bye bye kneecaps)
Even if you are the person they are looking for, they can't barge in. Even if you are the right person and you let them in, you have to sign to agree to what they are taking, although most baliffs aren't sent round to take items but to set up repayment plans.
My gf's dad had a housemate many years ago who defaulted and got baliffs sent round, and he just told them what was his and what was his housemates. They were really polite about it all.
Even if you are the person they are looking for, they can't barge in. Even if you are the right person and you let them in, you have to sign to agree to what they are taking, although most baliffs aren't sent round to take items but to set up repayment plans.
My gf's dad had a housemate many years ago who defaulted and got baliffs sent round, and he just told them what was his and what was his housemates. They were really polite about it all.
randomman said:
My gf's dad had a housemate many years ago who defaulted and got baliffs sent round, and he just told them what was his and what was his housemates. They were really polite about it all.
i think he was quite lucky, we have had bailiffs on the doorstep because of next door, and I had to get the police involved as they were very threatening and rude, and despite me telling them they were disabling the car that belonged to the new family (house had changed landlords as well) they said it was up to the new people to prove it.The copper said that was the case, but then made him put it all back, after i explained they were on holiday next door in Spain, and he threatened the bailiffs with nicking them for criminal damage to the car.
As for the people they were really after they had done a midnight flit 8 months before, we detested them so much, we left it a week before celebrating in case the scumbags came back.
Mind you the lot whose car it was ran off leaving 6 months rent unpaid, oh and several sacks of rubbish in the loft as well
the people there now are ok
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