Lockerbie bomber
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scz4

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2,744 posts

263 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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"Lockerbie bomber awaits bail fate"- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotl...

I am not usually an opinionated person, but is it just me who feels angered and sick at the thought of this guy being released? He intentionally caused the death of hundreds of people and caused physical or emotional pain to thousands more. Why should be given a dignified end to his life?

P.S. I had no direct relation to this tragedy i.e. no family members involved etc


Edited by scz4 on Friday 14th November 11:01

996TT_STEVO

4,078 posts

250 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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Hit the nail on the head regarding emotional pain... a complete disgrace if he is released.

BTW... can't see this thread lasting long on a car forum

scz4

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2,744 posts

263 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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Fantastic news - request denied

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotl...



Edited by scz4 on Friday 14th November 11:04

robinh20mrv

586 posts

224 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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life should mean life, i saw it at fist hand.

ViperScot

10,087 posts

259 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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There's a lot of evidence that suggests that al-Megrahi was a scapegoat, used by the Libyan authorities. As terrible as Lockerbie was, if there's any doubt in the guilt of the convicted man then he should be allowed justice.

x200sxy

515 posts

222 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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ViperScot said:
There's a lot of evidence that suggests that al-Megrahi was a scapegoat, used by the Libyan authorities. As terrible as Lockerbie was, if there's any doubt in the guilt of the convicted man then he should be allowed justice.
+1

Jockstar205

330 posts

212 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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I agree with the original statement presuming he actually carried out this act.

As pointed out there was an element of doubt as to whether he was the guilty party but I doubt we'll ever get to the bottom of that.

scz4

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2,744 posts

263 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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What does everyone thinks of todays decision? frown

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotl...


Dargie

637 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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It's our law system that is wrong, not the decision. Any prisoner with less than 3 months to live can be released on compasionate grounds.


anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Dargie said:
It's our law system that is wrong, not the decision. Any prisoner with less than 3 months to live can be released on compasionate grounds.
If this is true it worries me. What's to stop someone released on compassionate grounds committing a crime, knowing they're going to die soon anyway therefore can't be effectively punished for it.

Whether Al Megrahi was a scapegoat or not, he was tried and found guilty, and IMO we shouldn't be bending the rules for guilty prisoners, especially when the crime they are convicted of involves the death of 270.

The judicial system is farcical as it is, a sentence is meaningless unless the guilty have to serve every day of it, and this rarely happens.

Rockatansky

1,814 posts

209 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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yellowbentines said:
Whether Al Megrahi was a scapegoat or not, he was tried and found guilty, and IMO we shouldn't be bending the rules for guilty prisoners, especially when the crime they are convicted of involves the death of 270.
That sums it up for me.


xtreme1

114 posts

222 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Rockatansky said:
yellowbentines said:
Whether Al Megrahi was a scapegoat or not, he was tried and found guilty, and IMO we shouldn't be bending the rules for guilty prisoners, especially when the crime they are convicted of involves the death of 270.
That sums it up for me.
And me!

Absolute joke the justice system today furious

Celt

1,264 posts

214 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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My mum just told me he was getting released as we drove pretty much next to glasgow airport. It sickens me that he is being released. It a total farse I wouldnt take any murderers health into acount when they request anything.

If a Scottish person had done that in Libya what would the likely outcome be?

anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Celt said:
If a Scottish person had done that in Libya what would the likely outcome be?
They still had the death penalty at that time (and may still do) so it may never even have got as far as appeals processes or early release.

flipflop1

642 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Before I start my comment, I would appreciate the abuse level being kept down, we all have opinions and I hope im not abused for standing up here.

My opinion is that we should be better than them, McCaskills speach today highlighted we, as a people are a compassionate race and in such have the ability to rise above our own loss to see the compassion in a situation. I to a certain extent agree with this a) because im sure he is actually a scapegoat and b) because no appeal court is going to overturn what happens to him now, his death will be protracted, painfull and horrible. The guys life is over, why should we hurt his familly and relatives by stoppping them saying goodbye.

I would also wonder right now if the good old U.S of A is as christian as they make out where is the words of the bible and forgiveness now.

Dont get me wrong, whoever did this deserves what they get and tbh I dont think i could be as forgiving if I was a victims relative.

As above, Im not looking to inflame anybody on here for voicing my opinion and if you are a relation in this tradgedy you have my sincerest apology if my comments have hurt or offended you.

Tubby2

398 posts

200 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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flipflop1 said:
My opinion is that we should be better than them, McCaskills speach today highlighted we, as a people are a compassionate race and in such have the ability to rise above our own loss to see the compassion in a situation. I to a certain extent agree with this a) because im sure he is actually a scapegoat and b) because no appeal court is going to overturn what happens to him now, his death will be protracted, painfull and horrible. The guys life is over, why should we hurt his familly and relatives by stoppping them saying goodbye.
I understand what you are saying, and this is not an abusive comeback but the people that he killed didn't get to say goodbye to their loved ones for good and these were innocent people. He didn't have any thought or respect for those people or their families. Why does he deserve any different?

Something that I heard on Radio one, a text from an ex soldier asking why were his friends dying fighting this war when convicted terrorists are beig freed?! Good point IMO.

Caroline

Silvervanman

111 posts

224 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Hey, i've got an idea. How about blowing his plane up somewhere over the ocean ! Lol.
See how his family feel. An eye for an eye i think.
SVM

BigAlinEmbra

1,629 posts

234 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Rockatansky said:
yellowbentines said:
Whether Al Megrahi was a scapegoat or not, he was tried and found guilty, and IMO we shouldn't be bending the rules for guilty prisoners, especially when the crime they are convicted of involves the death of 270.
That sums it up for me.
Well it's not really the full story, is it? His full statement is worth reading. The only reason he gave up his appeal was because he would not have been released had it still been ongoing.

I'm not saying that there was a miscarriage of justice, but he was far from the full way through the legal process. There have been people wrongly convicted in the past, indeed it's one of the core reasons we no longer have capital punishment.

jshell

11,908 posts

227 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Silvervanman said:
Hey, i've got an idea. How about blowing his plane up somewhere over the ocean ! Lol.
See how his family feel. An eye for an eye i think.
SVM
That's how it started!

The Yanks blew an Iranian airliner out of the sky, the Iranians then commited the Lockerbie disaster, and then (what I truly believe) was an innocent man went to jail so that Libya could buy their way back into International Politics..... Megarahi was framed, and the justice system couldn't afford the forth-coming appeal to raise some of the evidence that was suppressed at the original trials. So, they let him out on compassionate grounds.

It all fking stinks


scz4

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2,744 posts

263 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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Were any of the yankie air force found guilty and sent to prison for blowing the Iranian plane up?



Edited by scz4 on Thursday 20th August 21:29