front spliter
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Meatball

Original Poster:

1,638 posts

241 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Has anyone still got theirs on?
Ive just fitted one and its about 4" from the ground yikes i`ll be surprised if it lasts a week.



phlap

563 posts

283 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Mine departed when proceeding at many leptons on a motorway. Scared the life out of me. With the number of sodding speed humps near me I never bothered to replace it. grumpy

That Daddy

19,463 posts

252 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Meatball said:
Has anyone still got theirs on?
Ive just fitted one and its about 4" from the ground yikes i`ll be surprised if it lasts a week.

My 1st one nearly got removed just backing it off the ramp,i will admit i am on MK2 now(slightly shorter) wink always aware its there though rolleyes

Chimjunkie

2,879 posts

242 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Often read threads on this splitter and keep meaning to do something... Since i now have a light weight bonnet which lifts rather a lot on the passenger side, maybe i should fit one. May go down the route of an electromagnet on the bonnet to keep it tight when engine running. This was suggested by Plasticman. Top idea.

John.P

28 posts

269 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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I thought for ages about doing this. Therefore in true TVR style instead of buying one that might make no difference and fall off anyway, I went for a cut down piece of hexagonal guttering. Cut it down to two sides, and stuck to the undertray with no more nails - I wasn't expecting it to make a difference or stay on. I've half knocked it off once on a large speedbump that I know well but took too fast, and I think it really makes a difference. It had markedly stopped any bonnet lift, and I'm sure given a slight inprovement to the feel of the car. Overall worth it to me, all for a bit of strong glue and spare drainpipe!

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Those magnetic store security labels are a brilliantly simple design wink (Bonnet catch comment)

I posted the gutterteknic splitter ages ago http://tvr3.dspen.com/Splitter/splitter.htmlwink

Edited by spend on Sunday 16th November 01:47

Meatball

Original Poster:

1,638 posts

241 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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The splitter does make a difference the front end is more planted imo.
Added bonus my bonnet doesnt lift at all now biggrin

BBR

110 posts

230 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Does the splitter also help airflow and therefore help to disipate heat in the engine bay?

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Yes it assists, but if your cooling is marginal then better to fix it first wink

It helps mainly in pulling air out from behind redfaceoerrmissusmoment: just about anything / any shape under the front can create this effect (just so you don't get bogged down thinking its a complex aero scenario) IYSWIM.

Markh

2,781 posts

306 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Meatball said:
The splitter does make a difference the front end is more planted imo.
Added bonus my bonnet doesnt lift at all now biggrin
I recently fitted one and found the same, just need to remember its there when getting on and off the ferry

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Try putting it on backwards (trailing back) like a lot of teh cerbs have, I have tried and can't tell any difference. It does move the low point nearer to the wheelbase, so lasts longer?

nikman

878 posts

236 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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spend said:
Try putting it on backwards (trailing back) like a lot of teh cerbs have, I have tried and can't tell any difference. It does move the low point nearer to the wheelbase, so lasts longer?
Would make some difference to the cooling benefit. But I reckon it'd make a bucket load of difference to the stability issue!! Mounted backwards trailing in the airflow it would be doing a great impression of the first stage of flap you see sticking down at the back of an aircraft wing at take off. Just the job to give you extra lift at take off speed - or in this case at a lower speed than would be the case without the splitter at all!
Nick.

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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The air is not directed into open space by the splitter, so I don't think the wing analogy holds true. I tend to think that just about any 'obstruction' in a confined space will create a leading bubble of air that is actually doing the hard work.

Having said that, all mine have had the lower lip vertical whichever orientation they have been fitted? Kind of:
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V8 GRF

7,299 posts

241 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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As Dave has said it will make absolutely no difference what so ever which way you fit it, it's there to 'disturb the air and create a swirl which creates a negative air pocket and so aid air being sucked in through the rad, it also has the benefit of sucking the bonnet down.

I've exprienced the car with the splitter present and missing and the only real benefit I've seen or felt is the bonnet didn't flap with it fitted.

Also as Crazynick has said on a similar thread elsewhere TVRs never went anywere near windtunnels so anything such as this is a suck it and see solution.

Andy JB

1,321 posts

250 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Meatball said:
Has anyone still got theirs on?
Ive just fitted one and its about 4" from the ground yikes i`ll be surprised if it lasts a week.

Correct - mine lasted a week after coming off twice along the lanes - never replaced it, it looked like an accident or claim waiting to happen

blujay10

583 posts

261 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Re fitted mine twice and given up now. Only noticed it had fallen off again when i looked and so cant say I have noticed any difference in either handling or engine running temperature.
Seems to just fall off and scares the life out of anybody following behind!

poorpeet

837 posts

276 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Found this:
Splitters, extending forward and underneath an air dam/spoiler, use the same principle as a spoiler but operate differently. Since the front of the car is a blunt shape, the oncoming air is slowed substantially, resulting in a high-pressure zone known as a stagnation point. By placing a horizontally protruding splitter plate right in the thick of this high-pressure zone, a large amount of efficient downforce can be generated. The splitter, hence its name, splits the high-pressure zone from the low-pressure high-speed flow moving under the car. Pressure varies with the car's speed squared, so downforce increases quickly as the speed increases. Generally, the effects are felt at speeds over 75mph.
By having the splitter facing back it will be assisting the flow of air from the high pressure area to under the car. High pressure under the car equals lift.

Edited by poorpeet on Wednesday 19th November 18:43

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

241 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Nice quote, but the splitters described there are the flat (horizontal) pieces you see protruding forward of some air dams/spoliers.

The TVR 'splitters' are incorrectly named once you start getting technical and are in fact merely a piece of bent alloy or fibreglass that sticks out into the airflow and as a result creates a bit of disturbance and hence negative air pressure behind them so should really be called 'spoiler's if anything. Apart from being in the wrong place to work as described the airflow is not contained or separated (split) by any sideplates, airdam/spoiler or complex aerodynamics that would make it 'work' in the way that piece describes.

I guess you might start to see lift if the bottom of the car was flat but as it's full of holes you won't


Edited by V8 GRF on Wednesday 19th November 18:24

dhf

1,103 posts

225 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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does anyone have a picture they can post ?

Hoover.

5,993 posts

273 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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spyschm has one..... fashioned out of some old pipework..... tbh you wouldn't know it either, or that it was an add on

can't comment on affect... but he can