Which Golf ...any recommendations
Which Golf ...any recommendations
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boxster9

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466 posts

230 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Have been looking at a few of these over the past week. Which one would you recommend. Looking to spend no more than 9k. Has to be less than 3 yrs old, as economical as possible without being too boring to drive. I will be doing less than 10K/year.

Cheers for the advice.

missing the VR6

2,540 posts

219 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Don't be fooled by the Diseles economy figures, given the mileage you'll be doing and the substansial cost increase of the actual fuel you'll be putting in and the higher purchase price and servicing costs you'll be much better off with a petrol version financially
You really need to be doing atleast 16000 miles P/A to make diesel financially viable.

boxster9

Original Poster:

466 posts

230 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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missing the VR6 said:
Don't be fooled by the Diseles economy figures, given the mileage you'll be doing and the substansial cost increase of the actual fuel you'll be putting in and the higher purchase price and servicing costs you'll be much better off with a petrol version financially
You really need to be doing atleast 16000 miles P/A to make diesel financially viable.
Yeah I thought this to, I was surprised to see that a Mark5 GTI does 35mpg, thought it would be much lower than this. This certainly makes it one to consider. Anyone here own one? what's it like to own and drive..

Cheers.

JKY

358 posts

222 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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Try a Seat Altea 2.0 tdi Sport. You will get a 2 year mint one in your budget and fantastic cars to drive (they are a golf MK5). Looks like an MPV but handles like a sports car. Easy 54 MPG on the motorway and never less than 47 average.
Also have a Mk5 Golf GTI and does 34mpg overall so long as not pushing it. We should be selling the Altea now that we have this but are so reluctant to let it go. Very very underated car.

Edited by JKY on Tuesday 18th November 12:49


Edited by JKY on Tuesday 18th November 12:51

rsnoble

356 posts

218 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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dont get one

sjg

7,682 posts

295 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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I'd go for a 1.6 FSI Match - that money will get one under 2 years old with fairly low miles. Spec is everything you'd want really - MP3 CD player, ipod connectivity in armrest, cruise control, the nicer computer display between the dials, leather steering wheel with stereo buttons. Has alloys albeit fairly small ones but at least that means cheaper tyres.

The 1.9 is at similar prices though and you may prefer the way it drives - try both. They were offered with the DSG box too, not so many of those around though.

Vee

3,109 posts

264 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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sjg said:
I'd go for a 1.6 FSI Match - that money will get one under 2 years old with fairly low miles. Spec is everything you'd want really - MP3 CD player, ipod connectivity in armrest, cruise control, the nicer computer display between the dials, leather steering wheel with stereo buttons. Has alloys albeit fairly small ones but at least that means cheaper tyres.
Don't buy one of these.
We bought one for my mother in law, 56 reg, climate, satnav, ipod, and auto.
Its very slow (115bph but heavy) and not economical.

I'd get an early 2.0TDi. It would be about 3 years old though.

J400uk

16,117 posts

237 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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The 1.9 Match is worth a look, its slower on paper than the 1.6 but I know from experience in practice it feels a lot quicker due to the torque and the fact VW underquoted the bhp. Also pretty economical, 65 to the gallon up the motorway and the first ones on 56-plates with high-miles are starting to crop up for £9k.

I did origninally suggest this but later removed the post since I got the impression OP didnt want a diesel or anything slower than a GTI..


Edited by J400uk on Monday 24th November 21:01

boxster9

Original Poster:

466 posts

230 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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J400uk said:
The 1.9 Match is worth a look, its slower on paper than the 1.6 but I know from experience in practice it feels a lot quicker due to the torque and the fact VW underquoted the bhp. Also pretty economical, 65 to the gallon up the motorway and the first ones on 56-plates with high-miles are starting to crop up for £9k.

I did origninally suggest this but later removed the post since I got the impression OP didnt want a diesel or anything slower than a GTI..


Edited by J400uk on Monday 24th November 21:01
Yes prefer the petrol model as I won't be covering many miles in it to make the diesel more cost effective. Thughts on the Mk5 GTI anybody?

bga

8,134 posts

281 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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boxster9 said:
J400uk said:
The 1.9 Match is worth a look, its slower on paper than the 1.6 but I know from experience in practice it feels a lot quicker due to the torque and the fact VW underquoted the bhp. Also pretty economical, 65 to the gallon up the motorway and the first ones on 56-plates with high-miles are starting to crop up for £9k.

I did origninally suggest this but later removed the post since I got the impression OP didnt want a diesel or anything slower than a GTI..


Edited by J400uk on Monday 24th November 21:01
Yes prefer the petrol model as I won't be covering many miles in it to make the diesel more cost effective. Thughts on the Mk5 GTI anybody?
I love my GTI, comfortable, quick, fun to drive. 35+ mpg at legal speeds on motorway. I average 22-25 mpg when driving in central London.

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

256 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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Will you get a decent GTI for £9k?

They are all high mileage with poverty spec that I can see.

There should be some movement if you are looking at £9k+

disco1

1,963 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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Tip 1: Don't listen to people banging on about how petrol is better than TDIs, it isn't true, the Golf TDI 140 is a great car in its own right. These people simply cant handle that satans fuel is better than petrol.

Tip 2: If you want a practical performance car get the GTI, you can get them from £9k. 35 mpg, ok on tax..etc..etc..

Tip 3: If you want something that gets you from A to B, punchy, nippy, frugal get the Mk 5 TDI 140

Tip 4: Don't listen to people banging on about how petrol is better than TDIs, it isn't true.....


Anderooo

24 posts

220 months

Thursday 27th November 2008
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I wish my MK5 GTI did 35MPG! smile I get around 28 on the country lanes to work every day.

Must try shoes without the lead bit in the bottom and see what happens. smile

bga

8,134 posts

281 months

Thursday 27th November 2008
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Anderooo said:
I wish my MK5 GTI did 35MPG! smile I get around 28 on the country lanes to work every day.

Must try shoes without the lead bit in the bottom and see what happens. smile
28 mpg in country lanes is pretty good!

missing the VR6

2,540 posts

219 months

Thursday 27th November 2008
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disco1 said:
Tip 1: Don't listen to people banging on about how petrol is better than TDIs, it isn't true, the Golf TDI 140 is a great car in its own right. These people simply cant handle that satans fuel is better than petrol.

Tip 2: If you want a practical performance car get the GTI, you can get them from £9k. 35 mpg, ok on tax..etc..etc..

Tip 3: If you want something that gets you from A to B, punchy, nippy, frugal get the Mk 5 TDI 140

Tip 4: Don't listen to people banging on about how petrol is better than TDIs, it isn't true.....
Have you ever looked into the costings of Diesel vs Petrol over the sorts of low miles the OP is doing?
I'm not trying to say the Diesel wouldn't be better to drive and quicker but from an economic perspective given the stated annual millage the Diesel doesn't stack up.

J400uk

16,117 posts

237 months

Thursday 27th November 2008
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missing the VR6 said:
disco1 said:
Tip 1: Don't listen to people banging on about how petrol is better than TDIs, it isn't true, the Golf TDI 140 is a great car in its own right. These people simply cant handle that satans fuel is better than petrol.

Tip 2: If you want a practical performance car get the GTI, you can get them from £9k. 35 mpg, ok on tax..etc..etc..

Tip 3: If you want something that gets you from A to B, punchy, nippy, frugal get the Mk 5 TDI 140

Tip 4: Don't listen to people banging on about how petrol is better than TDIs, it isn't true.....
Have you ever looked into the costings of Diesel vs Petrol over the sorts of low miles the OP is doing?
I'm not trying to say the Diesel wouldn't be better to drive and quicker but from an economic perspective given the stated annual millage the Diesel doesn't stack up.
10,000 dosent register as "low miles" in my book. Thats diesel teriotry if you ask me, and if someone did the sums between a 140 GT petrol and diesel, and say a 1.6 vs 1.9 diesel the diesel would come out cheaper I'm sure. Add that onto the fact that taxation is less, more torque it dosent take a genuis to work out why pretty much every single golf on the road today has a TDI badge on the back....

Edited by J400uk on Thursday 27th November 11:46

disco1

1,963 posts

248 months

Thursday 27th November 2008
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J400uk said:
missing the VR6 said:
disco1 said:
Tip 1: Don't listen to people banging on about how petrol is better than TDIs, it isn't true, the Golf TDI 140 is a great car in its own right. These people simply cant handle that satans fuel is better than petrol.

Tip 2: If you want a practical performance car get the GTI, you can get them from £9k. 35 mpg, ok on tax..etc..etc..

Tip 3: If you want something that gets you from A to B, punchy, nippy, frugal get the Mk 5 TDI 140

Tip 4: Don't listen to people banging on about how petrol is better than TDIs, it isn't true.....
Have you ever looked into the costings of Diesel vs Petrol over the sorts of low miles the OP is doing?
I'm not trying to say the Diesel wouldn't be better to drive and quicker but from an economic perspective given the stated annual millage the Diesel doesn't stack up.
10,000 dosent register as "low miles" in my book. Thats diesel teriotry if you ask me, and if someone did the sums between a 140 GT petrol and diesel, and say a 1.6 vs 1.9 diesel the diesel would come out cheaper I'm sure. Add that onto the fact that taxation is less, more torque it dosent take a genuis to work out why pretty much every single golf on the road today has a TDI badge on the back....

Edited by J400uk on Thursday 27th November 11:46
Bingo!

My thoughts exactly. I'd even have a diesel over the petrol equivalent if doing stupidly low miles.

Summer just gone I did loads of camping in north wales and used hire cars. First time had Ford Festa 1.6, 2nd time had 1.6 TDCI. The petrol over the course of the weekend used 1 and a quarter tank, the diesel 3/4 of a tank, both have 35lt tanks, both carried same amount of gear people, exact same route and miles. Less filling up, less cost, better performance..etc..etc.

In Jan I am getting myself a Mk5 GTTDI.

missing the VR6

2,540 posts

219 months

Thursday 27th November 2008
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10000 miles per annum is low as the average driver now does 14000 mpa.
I'm only basing my thoughts on 5 years of car sales during which time my customers have felt no savings doing any less than 16000 mpa. You've got to get out the mentality that the diesel will do say 500 miles per tank and the petrol say 350. There's a bigger picture, increased servicing costs, higher tyre wear rates and if the VW engine is advanced enough the dpf. Given the potential miles the owner will be doing the car may never use the dpf which then brings the overall consumption down, plus they need changing every few years which is just an increased costing.

I'm personally a big diesel fan, I do quite a few miles about 18K pa and am seriously thinking about swapping my 1.8T A3 for a diesel one.
The torque is lovely and as an only car I think it makes a quicker prospect especially a PD140 although just guessing by the op's name he has a Boxster for fun so probably not so bothered about daily performance as lets face it neither the diesel Golf or sensible (non GTI R32) golf will be as good as the Porsche.