I EFFING HATE THAT LEPRECHAUN'S AIRLINE

[anonymous-user]

[redacted]

[just me]

Simply don't send your mother until you can afford to do it on a proper airline and hire a taxi to take her from the further airport to her brother's. Or go with her, hire a car, and drive her. She's your mother. What's the problem?

[off_again]

To be honest, stopped flying with them about 10 months ago. I will do anything to NEVER fly with them again. I use an online system for booking flights with our corporate travel provider (how very American?) - fortunately they don't appear on it and hence I never have a problem.

So, Happy Days for never flying on that shower of wee again....

[digger_R]

4/10 reasonable attempt, fact interdispersed with mild irritation, needs more profanity - could certainly do better

[Fort Jefferson]

anonymous said:

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Now come on Tonker, stop sitting on the fence and tell us what you think.

[chris.mapey]

anonymous said:

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Quoted for posterity

Have another

Chris

[Silver993tt]

I've heard that airline often cancel flights that don't have the load factor that will make a profit. They'll then significantly increase the fares on the "next available" flight. They really are a sham. I flew withthem only once and it was a total farce. Most of the time they are far more expensive than other airlines unless you book at least 6 months in advance. They can't compete with other airlines at airports that most people use. Take Heathrow and Gatwick, where are they there? They're not there because they can't compete.

[off_again]

On the point of disabled passengers, it shouldn't be an issue.

You can request additional assistance from any airline (and that includes Ryanair!) and they have people on hand at the airports to run them through check-in, security and then on to the gates. Then you are handed over the at-gate staff and boarded, and then the on-board staff take over. It works pretty smoothly (when its NOT Heathrow T2) and almost every other European airport is very good in at this.

My mum did this loads of times to the Middle East and praised both sides, though she did pick out the Saud's being the best.

T5 at Heathrow has a dedicated staff thats much bigger than it was at T4, so its going to be pretty smooth on BA. But I guess it depends on where you are going. But, that said, its a legal requirement to provide assistance to the disabled and those needing extra assistance - otherwise its discrimination and hence illegal.

Try it, it does work...

[Silver993tt]

off_again said:

On the point of disabled passengers, it shouldn't be an issue.

You can request additional assistance from any airline (and that includes Ryanair!) and they have people on hand at the airports to run them through check-in, security and then on to the gates. Then you are handed over the at-gate staff and boarded, and then the on-board staff take over. It works pretty smoothly (when its NOT Heathrow T2) and almost every other European airport is very good in at this.

My mum did this loads of times to the Middle East and praised both sides, though she did pick out the Saud's being the best.

T5 at Heathrow has a dedicated staff thats much bigger than it was at T4, so its going to be pretty smooth on BA. But I guess it depends on where you are going. But, that said, its a legal requirement to provide assistance to the disabled and those needing extra assistance - otherwise its discrimination and hence illegal.

Try it, it does work...

That's totally correct, however Ryan Air were forced by law to provide help to wheelchair passengers. Here are details of the court case where they tried to get out of it, bloody disgraceful airline :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/3994913.s...

[Papoo]

anonymous said:

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Just not going to happen, unfortunate though it is. The man is extremely clever in a psychotic kind of way.

Sorry to hear of your dilema, happened to us all, I'm afraid. As long as they keep touting tickets at 99p a piece to take the pikeys to Prague for a weekend of rape and pillage, they'll continue to put other airlines under and continue to overpower the entire European industry..

[Deva Link]

anonymous said:

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The thing is; you knew in advance that all this would happen, yet you still went ahead and booked with them!

[andy-xr]

I once spelt Accounting the same as you did in an email to a customer. They werent amused either

Anyway, had similar problems with PikeyJet. Booked to go to Dublin next week, but their website wouldnt take my card details, just gave a random error. So I entered my details again, cant do that as the website recognises I'm the same person.

Checked my card and they havent taken any money, but I can check in OK online. Think I'll just wait and see what happens, mine's a work thing that I can get out of if needs be, obviously yours is a bit more important.

Edited by andy-xr on Monday 17th November 18:16

[Silver993tt]

Papoo said:

anonymous said:

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Just not going to happen, unfortunate though it is. The man is extremely clever in a psychotic kind of way.

Sorry to hear of your dilema, happened to us all, I'm afraid. As long as they keep touting tickets at 99p a piece to take the pikeys to Prague for a weekend of rape and pillage, they'll continue to put other airlines under and continue to overpower the entire European industry..

I wouldn't be so sure about that, O'leary and his mate Cawley are full of hot air. They are continually bad mouthing other airlines, who actually provide services that can't make a profit. Now that's a word missing from O'Leary's vocab - "Service".

As I said before, the majority of their tickets are NOT cheap. They's put a handful up at £10 and cause a stampede, and thiose that miss out will then have to pay significantly more. If people believe that all seats on his airline are less than £50 they're kidding themselves, he'd have been bust long ago.

I think his airline will start to show serious cracks in about 12 months time but of course he'll try and take the others with him because that's the type of person he is - yuck.

[Papoo]

Silver993tt said:

Papoo said:

anonymous said:

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Just not going to happen, unfortunate though it is. The man is extremely clever in a psychotic kind of way.

Sorry to hear of your dilema, happened to us all, I'm afraid. As long as they keep touting tickets at 99p a piece to take the pikeys to Prague for a weekend of rape and pillage, they'll continue to put other airlines under and continue to overpower the entire European industry..

I wouldn't be so sure about that, O'leary and his mate Cawley are full of hot air. They are continually bad mouthing other airlines, who actually provide services that can't make a profit. Now that's a word missing from O'Leary's vocab - "Service".

As I said before, the majority of their tickets are NOT cheap. They's put a handful up at £10 and cause a stampede, and thiose that miss out will then have to pay significantly more. If people believe that all seats on his airline are less than £50 they're kidding themselves, he'd have been bust long ago.

I think his airline will start to show serious cracks in about 12 months time but of course he'll try and take the others with him because that's the type of person he is - yuck.

Perhaps, but perhaps not. Why would they start to show cracks? Right now, in an industry that is constantly very volatile, and is currently taking a pounding (notice airlines around the world going under on a weekly basis), O'Leary's lot are usually best placed to come out of the other end of a crisis.

It's incredibly easy to work out the cost to RYR of a flight using revenue seat kilometres, and if they don't want to launch a flight due to it being under-loaded, let them - It's their trainset. BMI do the opposite, and fly empty aircraft out of Heathrow, so as not to lose the slot. Who cares?

At this point, the fact that not all of the seats are £10 a pop means nothing, and doesn't annoy anyone. They have one of the largest fleets in the world, operating a huge number of flights. This makes them more convenient than BA or pretty much anyone else in the industry. People will fly RYR, they'll complain about it, but they'll come straight back.

Take a look at the P&L of RYR, compare to other Brtish carriers, and try not to come to the conclusion that if RYR sink, most of the competietion will have sank a long time ago.

[uk_vette]

You have to play them at their own game.
Just book well in advance.
Even if it means missing the odd flight.
Loads of tickets for £5.00 or £10.00
Never take a suit case
Always online checkin.
Try get a visa electron and don't pay the £4.00 booking.

Anyway, who does visa electron cards

[Silver993tt]

Papoo said:

Silver993tt said:

Papoo said:

anonymous said:

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Just not going to happen, unfortunate though it is. The man is extremely clever in a psychotic kind of way.

Sorry to hear of your dilema, happened to us all, I'm afraid. As long as they keep touting tickets at 99p a piece to take the pikeys to Prague for a weekend of rape and pillage, they'll continue to put other airlines under and continue to overpower the entire European industry..

I wouldn't be so sure about that, O'leary and his mate Cawley are full of hot air. They are continually bad mouthing other airlines, who actually provide services that can't make a profit. Now that's a word missing from O'Leary's vocab - "Service".

As I said before, the majority of their tickets are NOT cheap. They's put a handful up at £10 and cause a stampede, and thiose that miss out will then have to pay significantly more. If people believe that all seats on his airline are less than £50 they're kidding themselves, he'd have been bust long ago.

I think his airline will start to show serious cracks in about 12 months time but of course he'll try and take the others with him because that's the type of person he is - yuck.

Perhaps, but perhaps not. Why would they start to show cracks? Right now, in an industry that is constantly very volatile, and is currently taking a pounding (notice airlines around the world going under on a weekly basis), O'Leary's lot are usually best placed to come out of the other end of a crisis.

It's incredibly easy to work out the cost to RYR of a flight using revenue seat kilometres, and if they don't want to launch a flight due to it being under-loaded, let them - It's their trainset. BMI do the opposite, and fly empty aircraft out of Heathrow, so as not to lose the slot. Who cares?

At this point, the fact that not all of the seats are £10 a pop means nothing, and doesn't annoy anyone. They have one of the largest fleets in the world, operating a huge number of flights. This makes them more convenient than BA or pretty much anyone else in the industry. People will fly RYR, they'll complain about it, but they'll come straight back.

Take a look at the P&L of RYR, compare to other Brtish carriers, and try not to come to the conclusion that if RYR sink, most of the competietion will have sank a long time ago.

They're not convenient to many people in a number of ways. a) Stanstead is a long way for everyone in Surrey, Sussex, Kent, Hampshire etc b) they are unreliable both in service and punctuality (due to 25min turnaround times). Most people I know who have tried them once have never flown with them again - and that can't just be mine or my colleagues experience.

[Gylen]

Presumably you are now saying to hell with them and just booking with someone else and getting a cab etc?

If so, is it worth your while to turn up at the airport, book your suitcase on and then not board and go home. Cue, huge inconvenience as the whole plane has to sit there while they unpack and take your bag off.

Childish and inconvenient for everybody else, I realise but it may just be worth it?

When they try and chase you to find out what happened, insist that you can't understand them and spend the next few minutes putting them on hold, hassling them and being a pain in the arse...

[HundredthIdiot]

I used to hate Ryanair. I don't any more.

You have to accept the terms and conditions, which are basically that they can do whatever they like, and you have no recourse. In exchange, you get cheap(ish) flights, and the small but significant chance of being seriously messed around.

In your case, it sounds like your mother is not young or fit enough to use Ryanair. In this case, just pretend they don't exist and use other transport options.

I generally only use Rynair now for business, and only when I'm going to an airport with car hire (e.g. Dublin to Leeds Bradford or East Midlands). I'd never use them to fly "to" a capital city, or for pleasure (obviously).

The worst combination would be Rynair booked through Expedia (which you can't do, thank Christ). Don't get me started on Expedia...

[Papoo]

Silver993tt said:

Papoo said:

Silver993tt said:

Papoo said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Just not going to happen, unfortunate though it is. The man is extremely clever in a psychotic kind of way.

Sorry to hear of your dilema, happened to us all, I'm afraid. As long as they keep touting tickets at 99p a piece to take the pikeys to Prague for a weekend of rape and pillage, they'll continue to put other airlines under and continue to overpower the entire European industry..

I wouldn't be so sure about that, O'leary and his mate Cawley are full of hot air. They are continually bad mouthing other airlines, who actually provide services that can't make a profit. Now that's a word missing from O'Leary's vocab - "Service".

As I said before, the majority of their tickets are NOT cheap. They's put a handful up at £10 and cause a stampede, and thiose that miss out will then have to pay significantly more. If people believe that all seats on his airline are less than £50 they're kidding themselves, he'd have been bust long ago.

I think his airline will start to show serious cracks in about 12 months time but of course he'll try and take the others with him because that's the type of person he is - yuck.

Perhaps, but perhaps not. Why would they start to show cracks? Right now, in an industry that is constantly very volatile, and is currently taking a pounding (notice airlines around the world going under on a weekly basis), O'Leary's lot are usually best placed to come out of the other end of a crisis.

It's incredibly easy to work out the cost to RYR of a flight using revenue seat kilometres, and if they don't want to launch a flight due to it being under-loaded, let them - It's their trainset. BMI do the opposite, and fly empty aircraft out of Heathrow, so as not to lose the slot. Who cares?

At this point, the fact that not all of the seats are £10 a pop means nothing, and doesn't annoy anyone. They have one of the largest fleets in the world, operating a huge number of flights. This makes them more convenient than BA or pretty much anyone else in the industry. People will fly RYR, they'll complain about it, but they'll come straight back.

Take a look at the P&L of RYR, compare to other Brtish carriers, and try not to come to the conclusion that if RYR sink, most of the competietion will have sank a long time ago.

They're not convenient to many people in a number of ways. a) Stanstead is a long way for everyone in Surrey, Sussex, Kent, Hampshire etc b) they are unreliable both in service and punctuality (due to 25min turnaround times). Most people I know who have tried them once have never flown with them again - and that can't just be mine or my colleagues experience.

The 'Holy Grail' that is BA have a worse punctuality record. They also have an older, less reliable fleet, and have far fewer departure bases throughout the UK of any convenient size, so are indeed much less convenient for anyone who isn't in London. Let alone any others..

Most people I know don't find it pleasant, but far better value and more convenient than they could find elsewhere. I'm an airline pilot, and I got around cheaper with RYR (knowing what UK Vette said) cheaper as a fee-paying passenger than I did on my staff travel. So I didn't buy a £4 tube of pringles, so didn't eat for 2 hours. That aside, it was no more/less pleasant then flying coach in any other airline.

[eharding]

Silver993tt said:

They're not convenient to many people in a number of ways. a) Stanstead is a long way for everyone in Surrey, Sussex, Kent, Hampshire etc

Stanstead is also a long way from Stansted - bloody inconvenient that.....