Builders, why do we use plaster?
Builders, why do we use plaster?
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Hedders

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24,460 posts

277 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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In the states, they take a wooden framed wall, screw plasterboard to it, fill the gaps and decorate it.

In the UK we take a wooden framed wall, screw plasterboard to it, and then pay hundreds of pounds for some guy to add another layer of plaster before we can decorate.

What is the reason for it?




paul26982

3,850 posts

248 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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most likely for the nice smooth finish

Jonny_

4,706 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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To be fair the Yank way is fine if you're gonna use wallpaper.

However, papering straight onto plasterboard means that the board will more than likely end up f***ed in a few years when you try to remove the old wallpaper.

ferg

15,242 posts

287 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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Hedders said:
In the states, they take a wooden framed wall,
More likely metal.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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taping and jointing

we do it too

Edited by sleep envy on Thursday 20th November 19:38

MrVelox

2,974 posts

217 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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Because you can buy 4,000 square foot houses in America for $200,000 or less. Not in, say, New York, Chicago or Los Angeles, but in Dallas or parts of Florida, or elsewhere in the country you can.

miniman

30,067 posts

292 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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sleep envy said:
taping and jointing

we do it too
Yep, mate of mine did his kitchen extension that way, once painted you couldn't tell.

elster

17,517 posts

240 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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Do it here and all over continent.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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sleep envy said:
taping and jointing

we do it too

Edited by sleep envy on Thursday 20th November 19:38
yes Thats what dry lining contractors do.

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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Because most of the time you can see the joints.

Can't beet a nice flat skim coat

Piglet

6,250 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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Autonotiv said:
Because most of the time you can see the joints.

Can't beet a nice flat skim coat
Yup my dad's bungalow is jointed and every bleeding joint shows unless you use embossed wallpaper.

steve.c

12,503 posts

239 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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Autonotiv said:
Because most of the time you can see the joints.

Can't beet a nice flat skim coat
Very true, but then if plastering isn't done properly it will also look bad,
nearly all new builds now including commercial aswel as houses will have the metal frame system,plasterboard and then taped/jointed as the cost to 'skim' walls now is almost double the price over tape/jointing, and if done correctly tape/jointing finish is 95% crack free so developers save twice by not having to go back after the initial 12months to repair cracks etc.

Hedders

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24,460 posts

277 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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Cool, so i don't need to plaster a wall if i am confident of getting a good finish the other way then?

I was worried that it might actually be part of the building code or something.

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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Hedders said:
Cool, so i don't need to plaster a wall if i am confident of getting a good finish the other way then?

I was worried that it might actually be part of the building code or something.
If its your own gaff, then imo i would plaster it.

mr_spock

3,374 posts

245 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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I quite like the typical American spackle coat. It's in every one of my mates' houses on the west coast.

Busamav

2,954 posts

238 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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Hedders said:
Cool, so i don't need to plaster a wall if i am confident of getting a good finish the other way then?

I was worried that it might actually be part of the building code or something.
its actually quite easy to do once shown , and with the right kit.

I had a go once at the British Gypsum school as i doubted to the rep their ability to provide a suitable finish on a hotel project we were drawing.

I wouldnt have earnt much at it though due to being so slow , but i still prefer a plaster finish .

Hedders

Original Poster:

24,460 posts

277 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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Autonotiv said:
Hedders said:
Cool, so i don't need to plaster a wall if i am confident of getting a good finish the other way then?

I was worried that it might actually be part of the building code or something.
If its your own gaff, then imo i would plaster it.
I spent a few years doing construction in the states so i am fairly confident of my 'drywalling' skills provided i can get the same type of plaster board compound, i guess i am looking for a finish coat or something..will have to see what they sell here..


ferg

15,242 posts

287 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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I've NEVER seen a taped and jointed wall that looked as good as a skim.
Come to that board walls are crap compared to render and set. You can't hang anything on them.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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ferg said:
I've NEVER seen a taped and jointed wall that looked as good as a skim.
Come to that board walls are crap compared to render and set. You can't hang anything on them.
Well you can, you've just got to find a stud and the piece has to be big enough to span the 450mm centres.

As for plastering its a black art. Not a DIY job IMHO.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Thursday 20th November 2008
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ferg said:
board walls are crap compared to render and set
amen!