Outrigger replacement

[djc100]

Hi,
Looked at several Cerbs and its clear that many are getting ready for outrigger replacement.
(no surprise there then).
Replacing outriggers on Griffs and Chims is no longer the major job it was - at least two reputable Co's do the job without body lift at £500 to £1000 a side.
What are the options and likely costs with Cerb's - neither of the above mentioned Co's have done the same on a Cerb yet.

David

[dan de-lyon]

hi
dont know where you are but there is a company in blackpool carrying out cerb chassis repairs without body renoval, not sure who they are but will find out if its of interest/in your area

[djc100]

dan de-lyon said:

hi
dont know where you are but there is a company in blackpool carrying out cerb chassis repairs without body renoval, not sure who they are but will find out if its of interest/in your area

I live about 12ml from the factory (Blackpool) so yes of interest. I know S&D change Chim/Griff outriggers without lifting the body but last time I talked to them they had not done a Cerb and were unsure if same method would work due to configuration of rear seat etc.

David

[TT Tim]

djc100 said:

dan de-lyon said:

hi
dont know where you are but there is a company in blackpool carrying out cerb chassis repairs without body renoval, not sure who they are but will find out if its of interest/in your area

I live about 12ml from the factory (Blackpool) so yes of interest. I know S&D change Chim/Griff outriggers without lifting the body but last time I talked to them they had not done a Cerb and were unsure if same method would work due to configuration of rear seat etc.

David

Rear seat configuration? Why? Do they need to get at the top of the tubes from inside the car?

I've seen a Chim done from below, in fact I 'stole' the pics and put them on my website as a 'how to'.

Link here

Tim

Edited by TT Tim on Friday 21st November 17:28

[djc100]

TT Tim said:

djc100 said:

dan de-lyon said:

hi
dont know where you are but there is a company in blackpool carrying out cerb chassis repairs without body renoval, not sure who they are but will find out if its of interest/in your area

I live about 12ml from the factory (Blackpool) so yes of interest. I know S&D change Chim/Griff outriggers without lifting the body but last time I talked to them they had not done a Cerb and were unsure if same method would work due to configuration of rear seat etc.

David

Rear seat configuration? Why? Do they need to get at the top of the tubes from inside the car?

I've seen a Chim done from below, in fact I 'stole' the pics and put them on my website as a 'how to'.

Link here

Tim

Edited by TT Tim on Friday 21st November 17:28

Yes access - I believe they fit a full jig formed and painted 'E section' joining close to the main chassis with access holes thro' the floor to ensure 100% weld.
A midlands Co do something similar but without access thro' the floor.
The question is has anybody done it on a Cerb - I don't really see any reason why its not possible.

david

[dan de-lyon]

sorry been offline ring track v road in clitheroe they know who the company is,hope its of help.

[trackcar]

I've done a few outriggers on cerbs now using my vee-weld method of joining the tubes which is used by a few other companies now aswell, and one car i did by chopping into the floor section and then re-bonding back in place. both methods work well and i wouldnt say one was better or worse than the other having done them both. It's more involved on cerbs because the body bolts through tubes welded into the outriggers so making up the outrigger section is more complicated, but still a lot cheaper than raising the body

[The AJP Griff]

djc100 said:

Hi,
Looked at several Cerbs and its clear that many are getting ready for outrigger replacement.
(no surprise there then).
Replacing outriggers on Griffs and Chims is no longer the major job it was - at least two reputable Co's do the job without body lift at £500 to £1000 a side.
What are the options and likely costs with Cerb's - neither of the above mentioned Co's have done the same on a Cerb yet.

David

Just be careful who you use with something like chassis work.The idiot who 'repaired' mine didnt even weld the seat belt mounts in the corect place,and some of his other welding has fallen apart!!so we now have to face the fact that for our own piece of mind with such a safety related thing,we are having to do it again

[QuiteQuietCerb]

i recently called Sportmotive (they do outrigger replacement for griffs, chims) to enquire about the cerb. I was told that it may not be possible but still they would take a look at my car.

Jools i believe you dont do the welding anymore (please correct me if im wrong), if you know any garages that do i would be very interested to know

[trackcar]

Try RT Racing is Shef their guy there is very good

[QuiteQuietCerb]

thanks Jools, will give them a call

[QuiteQuietCerb]

spoke to RT racing, but was told that they dont do outrigger repairs on the cerb without taking the body off, any other suggestions would be welcomed

[SimonSparrow]

I had mine repaired recently by Offords, near Cambridge. This didn't involve taking the body off, but I guess it depends how bad they are.

[QuiteQuietCerb]

thanks for this Simon, do you know what they did/how bad the corners where (i.e where there any holes in the outriggers?)

i see you are in Reading, maybe we can meet up, i'd be very interested to see the work they ve done on your car

Edited by QuiteQuietCerb on Monday 24th November 20:43

Edited by QuiteQuietCerb on Monday 24th November 20:47

[SimonSparrow]

I had a couple of small holes just behind the front wheels, where the tubes run close to the body. You couldn't see them, but I could feel them with a 'J' shaped metal pick.

I discovered these when doing the annual waxoyl that I've done to the car since I've owned it.

I think one of the back corners was replaced as it was looking a bit ropy too.

No longer in Reading, but in West London, but welcome to come and have a look sometime.

There is a bit of info about the Offords approach on the griff/chim forums.

[QuiteQuietCerb]

thanks for this Simon, i ll definately check offords just in case, shame you re not in reading anymore