Creationism pseudo-science rubbish in the UK!
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Check out the "education" section of this small zoo near Bristol. I find it absolutely incredible that these poisonous lies can be peddled by an organisation that kids will naturally want to visit.
http://www.noahsarkzoofarm.co.uk/education/
'The Bible indicates that we have a Creator God. It also indicates that he is willing, and indeed wants, to enter into a personal relationship with each of us, his creation. Jesus Christ said “Here I am, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in.” Revelation 3:20'
Its a way of brainwashing kids with cute animals. Religion and education should be kept seperate.
Its a way of brainwashing kids with cute animals. Religion and education should be kept seperate.
- **can of worms duly opened****
Mannginger said:
Oh yes.What piffle.
Mannginger said:
Using Genesis as a foundation for working out the evolution of lizard to snake
Edited by Road Pest on Sunday 23 November 14:34
garycat said:
Check out the "education" section of this small zoo near Bristol. I find it absolutely incredible that these poisonous lies can be peddled by an organisation that kids will naturally want to visit.
http://www.noahsarkzoofarm.co.uk/education/
I don't really have a problem with it in a private organisation; if it was being taught as science in schools that would be different. To be honest, any kid being taken there by creationist parents is going to be fairly throughly indoctrinated anyway with no fluffy animals required.http://www.noahsarkzoofarm.co.uk/education/
If I had kids I'd probably take them there as part of teaching them what is and isn't science.
drivin_me_nuts said:
So let the kids visit. Surely the idea with kids is to create alternatives and openness that there is more than one way of looking at anything - including our origins.
OP what would you rather happen - that it be closed down because it offends your viewpoint?
No, I'd rather they taught proper science. I.e. theories that have been proven and peer-reviewed by qualified biologists.OP what would you rather happen - that it be closed down because it offends your viewpoint?
Just because there are two opposing viewpoints, is doesn't mean that both are equally valid.
garycat said:
No, I'd rather they taught proper science. I.e. theories that have been proven and peer-reviewed by qualified biologists.
Just because there are two opposing viewpoints, is doesn't mean that both are equally valid.
So you'd be happy if your kids were taught only one side of MMGW?Just because there are two opposing viewpoints, is doesn't mean that both are equally valid.
Let your kids decide which viewpoint is more valid - they'll never learn how to critically evaluate anything other wise.
Bing o said:
So you'd be happy if your kids were taught only one side of MMGW?
Let your kids decide which viewpoint is more valid - they'll never learn how to critically evaluate anything other wise.
Come on, I don't really have a problem with a creationist zoo but if we're talking teaching them it's different. Should we teach kids that the sun go's around the Earth and let them make up their own mind? Or that everything is made of earth, air and fire? I would say no because it's a waste of time. Nobody who knows anything about biology thinks that there are two valid viewpoints.Let your kids decide which viewpoint is more valid - they'll never learn how to critically evaluate anything other wise.
Bing o said:
garycat said:
No, I'd rather they taught proper science. I.e. theories that have been proven and peer-reviewed by qualified biologists.
Just because there are two opposing viewpoints, is doesn't mean that both are equally valid.
So you'd be happy if your kids were taught only one side of MMGW?Just because there are two opposing viewpoints, is doesn't mean that both are equally valid.
Let your kids decide which viewpoint is more valid - they'll never learn how to critically evaluate anything other wise.
Road Pest said:
Mannginger said:
Using Genesis as a foundation for working out the evolution of lizard to snake
From what I read they used phrases like "What religious people believe . . " before these statements 'explaining' gaps and floods etc.
RobM77 said:
I'm not sure that's a good analogy. MMGW is still under debate as far as I know - there's several scientific viewpoints veing discussed.
Not according to the vast majority of climate scientists. There have even been calls in the states to silence those scientists that 'deny' climate change. This is a private zoo. If people really feel that strongly about the owners suggesting there is a God and stating that some people believe was involved in stages of creation then they shouldn't go there.
It's hardly brainwashing.
el stovey said:
RobM77 said:
I'm not sure that's a good analogy. MMGW is still under debate as far as I know - there's several scientific viewpoints veing discussed.
Not according to the vast majority of climate scientists. There have even been calls in the states to silence those scientists that 'deny' climate change. This is a private zoo. If people really feel that strongly about the owners suggesting there is a God and stating that some people believe was involved in stages of creation then they shouldn't go there.
It's hardly brainwashing.
RobM77 said:
Bing o said:
garycat said:
No, I'd rather they taught proper science. I.e. theories that have been proven and peer-reviewed by qualified biologists.
Just because there are two opposing viewpoints, is doesn't mean that both are equally valid.
So you'd be happy if your kids were taught only one side of MMGW?Just because there are two opposing viewpoints, is doesn't mean that both are equally valid.
Let your kids decide which viewpoint is more valid - they'll never learn how to critically evaluate anything other wise.
IMHO, we should teach our kids the different viewpoints, and help them learn hpw to differentiate between them.
At one point the overwhelming scientific consensus was that the earth was flat, and the stars orbited us - would you rather your kids learnt to challenge ideas, or just believe what the popular media tells them without question.
Creationism is interesting, as it helps us understand the different and changing view points that our ancestors help about the very origin of life - and for that reason, I have no issue with a creationist view at a private zoo.
(Bear in mind that we almost had a US creationist VP....useful to understand the enemy IYSWIM)
el stovey said:
RobM77 said:
I'm not sure that's a good analogy. MMGW is still under debate as far as I know - there's several scientific viewpoints veing discussed.
Not according to the vast majority of climate scientists. There have even been calls in the states to silence those scientists that 'deny' climate change. 
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