Half price offers in the supermarkets
Half price offers in the supermarkets
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HOGEPH

Original Poster:

5,249 posts

215 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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It would appear that all the supermarket chains, even Waitrose, can now afford to offer 50% off deals.

How come it's taken a credit crunch for the supermarkets to stop ripping us off?

mechsympathy

58,672 posts

284 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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The supermarkets make the suppliers take the hit for all these offers.

The Ben

1,623 posts

246 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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I don't think they particularly rip us off, as far as I know, Tesco only have around a 2% profit margin, so obviously a fine line there....

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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I thought they were called loss leaders?

JDMTim

1,138 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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mechsympathy said:
The supermarkets make the suppliers take the hit for all these offers.
What he said

The Ben

1,623 posts

246 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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anonymous said:
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okay......................................................................................................................................................

don't shoot the messenger... This is something that I was taught as part of my degree. If you are going to shoot anyone down, make it my obviously lying marketing lecturer.....

benoli

1,351 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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The Ben said:
Tesco only have around a 2% profit margin....
it'll soon be 4.5% profit
when the VAT drops to 15% will all suppliers drop their sales prices ? NO . . . . of course they won't

we end up paying the same price tommorrow as it is today - irregardless of tax

The Ben

1,623 posts

246 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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benoli said:
The Ben said:
Tesco only have around a 2% profit margin....
it'll soon be 4.5% profit
when the VAT drops to 15% will all suppliers drop their sales prices ? NO . . . . of course they won't

we end up paying the same price tommorrow as it is today - irregardless of tax
well not quite 4.5% but I get your meaning!!

mouk786

1,263 posts

226 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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The Tesco store I worked at made around 70m revenue a year and 7m ended up as profit.

That included all of the store running costs but I don't know how much of that included suppert from main office

That was a few years back and it was always growing

Special offer deals were everywhere back then and they still are everywhere.

BigLepton

5,042 posts

230 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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benoli said:
The Ben said:
Tesco only have around a 2% profit margin....
it'll soon be 4.5% profit
when the VAT drops to 15% will all suppliers drop their sales prices ? NO . . . . of course they won't

we end up paying the same price tommorrow as it is today - irregardless of tax
It's already 4% - £2.13bn profit on a turnover of just over £47bn in the year ending March 2008.

transactor

152 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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tescos net in only 2% but their gross is far higher i bet, reason it drops to just 2% net is probably due to their enormous costs, all theose staff, buildings, trucks etc etc etc. If they only made 2% on the stuff they sell they'd never survive

deevlash

10,442 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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the tesco I worked in in central glasgow was barely breaking even on a £300,000 a week turnover 4 years ago, it was essentially an advert for the big out of town stores.

Half price deals are loss leaders, much like the beer deals.

speedchick

5,288 posts

251 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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With regard to the turcks, Tesco don't move their own stock any more, Stobarts have the contract, they do the warehousing, distribution centres and all the stock movements now, they took the DCs and fleet over.

Tesco just pay Stobbarts to do it for them.

Zad

13,008 posts

265 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Weren't the government pressuring supermarkets to remove these sort of offers?

deevlash

10,442 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Zad said:
Weren't the government pressuring supermarkets to remove these sort of offers?
just the alcohol ones

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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JDMTim said:
mechsympathy said:
The supermarkets make the suppliers take the hit for all these offers.
What he said
What they both said, either through financial subsidies based on volumes sold, price reductions or free stock.

mechsympathy

58,672 posts

284 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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deevlash said:
Zad said:
Weren't the government pressuring supermarkets to remove these sort of offers?
just the alcohol ones
yesAll part of the government crackdown on funrolleyes

pugwash4x4

7,679 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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its never 50% off what you'd pay if they didn't have an offer on though

typically 10-12% off according to Which magasine. Its a con really, but not a huge con!

ADJimbo

904 posts

215 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Right then, Ladies and Gents...

I have worked with top level branded suppliers to the UK Grocery Industry for circa ten years, living and breathing "their" Supermarket customer consumer promotions...

1/ Any major supermarket will expect a promotion to be 'margin maintained' - they make the same money, day in, day out - it's the supplier who funds the consumer discount.

2/ There will be a terms deal which will mean a further 1% to 5% is paid at year end, on all volume.

3/ The promotion needs to be advertised to the consumer. That little plastic barker on the shelf, which tells you it's on deal... that's another £25k. If they feature it on a leaflet as well, another £20k payment from the supplier to the supermarket.

4/ Any promotion needs to be on a Gondola End to work, thats another £60k paid to the supermarket, for a three week slot...

5/ Given this investment, you need to be sure that each individual store is complying to the agreement (Mults will not underwrite their agreements) - think £250 per store, to check what has been agreed, is actually happening. If a store does not want to run your promo, it does not have to...

6/ The supermarket then deduce the fact, had they had a Baked Beans on a 'Buy one, get six free' promotion on that shelf, they would have sold six times the volume that we did, they will invoice you for the loss of sales and profit.

7/ If your lorry was late delivering to one of their RDC's (after 10 minutes) then there is a another blanket £10k fine...

And if you refuse any of these charges, you are out - overnight..!

Make no mistake, the value for money that Supermarket's preach is far from that... Dont even get me going on price fixing...

Rant over, Once my career is over, I will be writing a book.

deevlash

10,442 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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ADJimbo said:
Right then, Ladies and Gents...

I have worked with top level branded suppliers to the UK Grocery Industry for circa ten years, living and breathing "their" Supermarket customer consumer promotions...

1/ Any major supermarket will expect a promotion to be 'margin maintained' - they make the same money, day in, day out - it's the supplier who funds the consumer discount.

2/ There will be a terms deal which will mean a further 1% to 5% is paid at year end, on all volume.

3/ The promotion needs to be advertised to the consumer. That little plastic barker on the shelf, which tells you it's on deal... that's another £25k. If they feature it on a leaflet as well, another £20k payment from the supplier to the supermarket.

4/ Any promotion needs to be on a Gondola End to work, thats another £60k paid to the supermarket, for a three week slot...

5/ Given this investment, you need to be sure that each individual store is complying to the agreement (Mults will not underwrite their agreements) - think £250 per store, to check what has been agreed, is actually happening. If a store does not want to run your promo, it does not have to...

6/ The supermarket then deduce the fact, had they had a Baked Beans on a 'Buy one, get six free' promotion on that shelf, they would have sold six times the volume that we did, they will invoice you for the loss of sales and profit.

7/ If your lorry was late delivering to one of their RDC's (after 10 minutes) then there is a another blanket £10k fine...

And if you refuse any of these charges, you are out - overnight..!

Make no mistake, the value for money that Supermarket's preach is far from that... Dont even get me going on price fixing...

Rant over, Once my career is over, I will be writing a book.
interesting post