ebay holding payments to sellers from buyers
ebay holding payments to sellers from buyers
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DucatiGary

Original Poster:

7,765 posts

254 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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what a bunch of stoopid s, I sold a blackberry phone on ebay which ended today.

the guy who won sent through payment and i get an email saying his payment is on hold as a security feature to prevent fraud.

I call paypal )premium rate number), they say just send the goods . . . . then say it was ebay who put it on hold not paypal.

i call ebay (premium rate number), they say nothing i can do i just have to send the goods, they will pay the money to us in 21 days if no negative stuff happens (they blamed paypal said to speak to them).

wtf 45 mins on the phone and they both couldnt care less!

so I told them with no uncertain terms if we cant resolve the issue ill close the account and never deal with them again.

they said if I did that the held money might go astray and the guy who paid it might have to wait weeks to get it back!

fk so i cant go closing the account till he's sorted at least.

what a bunch of arse, ive told the guy who's payment is held i am not sending the goods till i have payment.

is this a new thing with ebay?

they tell me it has always happend?

UPDATE - hes now threatening me by logging a dispute and getting charlie big bananas on the email, would I be wrong just closing the account and letting him do all the hard work getting his money back ?

Edited by DucatiGary on Monday 24th November 19:27

eccles

14,378 posts

251 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Why make the buyer suffer?.... He's done nothing wrong.

offroading.net

3,166 posts

219 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Don't send it, tell ebay to sod off, explain to buyer. Can you see the funds in paypal to do a refund?

intrepid44

691 posts

229 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Yeah I recently bought a new engine on eBay, and the payment didn't go straight through, took about 4 or so days to clear. So just wait a little bit and see what happens.

DucatiGary

Original Poster:

7,765 posts

254 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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it says held in my paypal

buyer said it says sent in his paypal

hes lodged a dispute to say he has not recieved an item, I am now making a dispute to say he has not paid for the item.

satchbot

1,916 posts

225 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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I wanted to buy something on fleabay today (buy it now) and won the item. Went to pay and got redirected to their new secure page where I have to sign up as a seller. Feck that! Abandoned it and got same item on ebid. Will stick with ebid from now on irked

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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That's pretty normal.
Think of it this way, someone has to make the first move, the UK has settled on pay first, send later.

Europe mainly does a "send first, pay later"
Someone has to take a risk, and in this case, you aren't really taking a risk anyway, just through escrow

DucatiGary

Original Poster:

7,765 posts

254 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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bugger i cant dispute non payment for 10 days, what a load of bks!

ipwn

2,920 posts

220 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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DucatiGary said:
he has not paid for the item.
He has.

A = seller
B = buyer

B sends payment, this has left his account officially. And is in a 3rd part account if you will that is paypal. A sends the item, if A gets pos feedback then the funds are released to you. IF you get a negative then the dispute is opened I believe.


satchbot

1,916 posts

225 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Shame all this. Ebay was fine in the good old days. Recently has just got ridiculous frown

richyb

4,615 posts

239 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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I hate ebay and stopped using if because of this kind of bullst. Nothing is ever easy with it anymore. I'd stop the transaction, inform the buyer, close the account and never use it again.

curlie467

7,650 posts

230 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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eccles said:
Why make the buyer suffer?.... He's done nothing wrong.
Neither has the seller.

DucatiGary

Original Poster:

7,765 posts

254 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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euroboy said:
Dont send it!

The buyer has done nothing wrong, but neither have you.

If enough people tell ebay to go f*ck themselves they might sort themselves out.
thats the reason im not sending it.

its only a piddling 100 quid but thats not the point, you pay first then the seller sends, im not trading in euroland so ill be trading how we trade, not how ebay expect us to just do as they say.

this account im using only has 10 feedback, ive no qualms about closing it if the guy gets shirty and then just let him give ebay a hard time about the money thats gone into the ether

Deluded

4,968 posts

220 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Paypal will release the money once the buyer has left you positive feedback (or 21 days after the auction end provided there hasnt been a dispute raised, if they dont bother leaving feedback).

Had the same a week ago on something of mine. Its totaly unreasonable for paypal to withhold money and expect the seller to send it in good faith. However, there is fk all you can do about it and no matter how much you moan to the paypal/ebay call centres in India, you are always wrong and they dont give a st.

I sent my item (£150 worth of head unit) and then explained to the buyer and politely asked if they could leave me feedback as I wont get the money unless they do. Buyer understood and left feedback. Money was released the next day.

shadowninja

80,063 posts

311 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Ah, the old (new) anti-seller thing. Watch out for the easy scam.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by shadowninja on Monday 24th November 19:44

DucatiGary

Original Poster:

7,765 posts

254 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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ipwn said:
DucatiGary said:
he has not paid for the item.
He has.

A = seller
B = buyer

B sends payment, this has left his account officially. And is in a 3rd part account if you will that is paypal. A sends the item, if A gets pos feedback then the funds are released to you. IF you get a negative then the dispute is opened I believe.
ebay told me that they do this to accounts that have not had feedback left/known to be trouble/etc I have a personal account that ive had for 7 years, ive been screwed by quite a few people and left with nothing but never, not even once had anything but praise when selling (done a fair amount of transactions too)

I pointed this out to the ebay bint and mentioned both biz account and personal account registered at my house, with nothing but glory as a seller and several occasions of being screwed with nothing but a hole in my account.

id feel a bit of a if I just closed this account and let the guy get on with it, see if he sorts himself out, ive told him to close the dispute or ill just cancell the account, if he thinks i will screw him why would I not have done this in the first place?

if he doesnt call of the dispute ill let him get on with it and ebay will have even more unhappy customers cos he will rightly want his money back asap

Hyperion

16,952 posts

229 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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People need to start using eBid.

oakdale

2,000 posts

231 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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They don't make it easy to close your account either, they like to make everything difficult.

MrV

2,748 posts

257 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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So if I get this right paypal now get to earn interest on the money they hold for up to 21 days ,thats nice for them mad

Chairman LMAO

666 posts

224 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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yep, happened to me twice. Once with a £600 pair of push bike wheels and once with a Laptop, see the link above to see how it is done. I HATE PAYPAL. Personal cheque from now on.


Is it just me or do you find the paypal site purposefully obstructive? not to mention the call centres.