another company goes bust
another company goes bust
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Original Poster:

25,414 posts

230 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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sadly this one's my dad's. just had a call from mum saying they let everyone go yesterday [about 6 workers] and have ceased trading. going to ring him when i get home but trying to find the words at the minute.

all this comes close on the heels of him being screwed over by an ex-director who was embezzling and had to 'fess up to the VAT man, leaving a 6 figure sum to pay.

parents at least have no mortgage but mum retired and this was their main income. feeling really stty as though the outlook isn't good here my job is 99% secure with good prospects. growing up sucks.

good luck to those out there running sme's.

LHDisbest

17,002 posts

216 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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Sorry to hear that frown

Had a similar experience back in '92 the last time, my old man's business went tits up.

Tell him to keep positive, this will all end and he can start afresh, without low-lives screwing the business.


Big Rod

6,265 posts

245 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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st outa luck!!

Sad to hear it.

I hope he gets back on his feet soon!!

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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My dad started his own business in the early 90's, then at the height of the recession it all went very wrong and he had to cease trading.

Absolutely gutting, he was unemployed for about 3 months, risked losing family home (my bro and I were 10 and 12 at the time) and times were particularly tough.

However, someone that's had the nouse to get their own business running will certainly have the drive and energy to find something else and - like my dad - make a success all over again.

Good times will come, and make sure your dad realises it may not be the end of the world just yet.

Dads are brill - remind him of that too yes

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

240 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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shirt]sadly this one's my dad's. just had a call from mum saying they let everyone go yesterday [about 6 workers said:
and have ceased trading. going to ring him when i get home but trying to find the words at the minute.

all this comes close on the heels of him being screwed over by an ex-director who was embezzling and had to 'fess up to the VAT man, leaving a 6 figure sum to pay.

parents at least have no mortgage but mum retired and this was their main income. feeling really stty as though the outlook isn't good here my job is 99% secure with good prospects. growing up sucks.

good luck to those out there running sme's.
It is indeed a crap time - SME's seem to be completely forgotten at the moment.

Not big enough to care about, small enough to be beaten about by the banks, ignored by the bigger companies ..

You have my sympathies.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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I own a "SME" along with my partners.

Really feel for your Dad. Sorry to hear of his trouble.

7 Sevens

658 posts

250 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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Sorry to hear that. Out of interest what type of company or area did he operate in?

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Original Poster:

25,414 posts

230 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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cheers for that tony [and for others kind words].

just feel so sorry for him as he keeps getting kicked in the nuts when things start looking up.

he lost his job in the mid 90's as the firm he worked for went under amid fraud allegations. he was well placed to start up on his own to plug the gap created by this collapse, so took out another mortgage on the house just as i was starting uni. in order to go it alone.

first premises was the size of our garage, but one of the former firm's directors joined him and things looked good. that is until dad found out said director had been forging his signature on company cheques and finance deals. no prizes for guessing those original fraud claims subsequently proved true.

dad did some legal shuffling and managed to keep the company but none of the debt, so merged with another local firm. it was the director of this firm who shafted him this time. the VAT he owed from this was about £120k, so imagine the scale of the fraud involved over 5-6yrs.

this recent episode almost broke him but he started again and was halfway through paying the debt and rebuilding the business only to find demand isn't there. afaik he has maxed the company overdraft just to reach this point, and thus is left with fk all for over a decade of hard work and long hours.

really really feel for him. have been moaning about my mortgage and my st car and here he his at 60yrs old in a worse position than his 27yr old son frown

Brabus Jord

1,589 posts

236 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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sorry to hear this. what did they do?

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Original Poster:

25,414 posts

230 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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7 Sevens said:
Sorry to hear that. Out of interest what type of company or area did he operate in?
glass business. supply/refurb. of machinery to double glazing industry etc.


TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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What an absolute shame to hear. Like you say, you're there worrying about your mortgage and it somewhat puts it into perspective.

All you can do right now is stress to your dad how great he is - he's your dad, he's been there for you through thick and thin and he's one of the most important things in the world to you - make sure he knows that thumbup

kit80

4,764 posts

216 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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Sorry to hear about that. My parents had a SME and went bust badly in the 90s, but there is life after this! Am sure they will be fine eventually but intially can be tough.

Hoppy2008

2,496 posts

224 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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Sorry to heear that mate, Im a bit concerned for my old Mans company at the moment too. His one survived the last recession so Im hoping it will this one too.

btw, what does SME stand for?

kit80

4,764 posts

216 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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Hoppy2008 said:
Sorry to heear that mate, Im a bit concerned for my old Mans company at the moment too. His one survived the last recession so Im hoping it will this one too.

btw, what does SME stand for?
Small Medium Enterprise, business of less then er cant remember how many but certain number of employees.

Hoppy2008

2,496 posts

224 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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kit80 said:
Hoppy2008 said:
Sorry to heear that mate, Im a bit concerned for my old Mans company at the moment too. His one survived the last recession so Im hoping it will this one too.

btw, what does SME stand for?
Small Medium Enterprise, business of less then er cant remember how many but certain number of employees.
Thanks Kit