Hard Working Families
Discussion
This phrase has appeared in the last few years, I suspect put into the lexicon by a NuLabia spin doctor. But it's now being used by the other parties too. WTF is it all about?
What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
oyster said:
This phrase has appeared in the last few years, I suspect put into the lexicon by a NuLabia spin doctor. But it's now being used by the other parties too. WTF is it all about?
What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
A typical family from Newcastle
poj said:
oyster said:
This phrase has appeared in the last few years, I suspect put into the lexicon by a NuLabia spin doctor. But it's now being used by the other parties too. WTF is it all about?
What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
A typical family from Newcastle
BigLepton said:
poj said:
oyster said:
This phrase has appeared in the last few years, I suspect put into the lexicon by a NuLabia spin doctor. But it's now being used by the other parties too. WTF is it all about?
What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
A typical family from Newcastle
te.oyster said:
This phrase has appeared in the last few years, I suspect put into the lexicon by a NuLabia spin doctor. But it's now being used by the other parties too. WTF is it all about?
What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
A hard working family, as opposed to a new generation scumbag family, where she works part time in the Coop, is claiming £200 a week 'social', and he lives at her house, whilst claiming dole, rent and Job seekers, but says he lives in his mates flat.What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
oyster said:
What on earth is a hard working family?
The conventional meaning would appear to be two adults, one male, one female, with 2.4 children. One adult works full time. The other at least part-time and possibly full time as well.They recieve the square root of feck all in benefits and their tax credits are so hard to claim and require the disclosure of so much personal information for about £100 a year they don't bother.
Their kids go to state schools, except where they are so s
t they somehow find £6K to £10k a year (after taxes!) to pay for private education. Their kids, when they do go on to further education, will rack up debts of £20K just paying for it.They go to NHS health facilities, except when they can't be bothered to see you for six months despite the fact you are in pain, and therefore pay a BUPA/PPP top up (after taxes!) in case some help is required quickly. Despite paying National Insurance that was supposed to cover health services they go to private dentist, as there is no other sort any more, and a private optician. Their kids costs hundreds every year on just those things.
They drive ordinary family vehicles - not new, a few years old - because they need to move the 2.4 kids around and, until recently, would have been charged the princely sum of £450 a year for the privelige.
In some areas, despite paying £2K in "Council Tax", they have to pay extra to have their rubbish taken away. If they put the wrong rubbish in the wrong bin (little Jonny is only five so he does get it wrong sometimes) they are fined and given a criminal record despite their best intentions. If they want their garden waste taken away in summer this also costs extra.
I think it's these people the politicians are talking about. You know - the ones whose job it is to pay. For everything.
Don said:
oyster said:
What on earth is a hard working family?
The conventional meaning would appear to be two adults, one male, one female, with 2.4 children. One adult works full time. The other at least part-time and possibly full time as well.They recieve the square root of feck all in benefits and their tax credits are so hard to claim and require the disclosure of so much personal information for about £100 a year they don't bother.
Their kids go to state schools, except where they are so s
t they somehow find £6K to £10k a year (after taxes!) to pay for private education. Their kids, when they do go on to further education, will rack up debts of £20K just paying for it.They go to NHS health facilities, except when they can't be bothered to see you for six months despite the fact you are in pain, and therefore pay a BUPA/PPP top up (after taxes!) in case some help is required quickly. Despite paying National Insurance that was supposed to cover health services they go to private dentist, as there is no other sort any more, and a private optician. Their kids costs hundreds every year on just those things.
They drive ordinary family vehicles - not new, a few years old - because they need to move the 2.4 kids around and, until recently, would have been charged the princely sum of £450 a year for the privelige.
In some areas, despite paying £2K in "Council Tax", they have to pay extra to have their rubbish taken away. If they put the wrong rubbish in the wrong bin (little Jonny is only five so he does get it wrong sometimes) they are fined and given a criminal record despite their best intentions. If they want their garden waste taken away in summer this also costs extra.
I think it's these people the politicians are talking about. You know - the ones whose job it is to pay. For everything.
Don said:
oyster said:
What on earth is a hard working family?
The conventional meaning would appear to be two adults, one male, one female, with 2.4 children. One adult works full time. The other at least part-time and possibly full time as well.They recieve the square root of feck all in benefits and their tax credits are so hard to claim and require the disclosure of so much personal information for about £100 a year they don't bother.
Their kids go to state schools, except where they are so s
t they somehow find £6K to £10k a year (after taxes!) to pay for private education. Their kids, when they do go on to further education, will rack up debts of £20K just paying for it.They go to NHS health facilities, except when they can't be bothered to see you for six months despite the fact you are in pain, and therefore pay a BUPA/PPP top up (after taxes!) in case some help is required quickly. Despite paying National Insurance that was supposed to cover health services they go to private dentist, as there is no other sort any more, and a private optician. Their kids costs hundreds every year on just those things.
They drive ordinary family vehicles - not new, a few years old - because they need to move the 2.4 kids around and, until recently, would have been charged the princely sum of £450 a year for the privelige.
In some areas, despite paying £2K in "Council Tax", they have to pay extra to have their rubbish taken away. If they put the wrong rubbish in the wrong bin (little Jonny is only five so he does get it wrong sometimes) they are fined and given a criminal record despite their best intentions. If they want their garden waste taken away in summer this also costs extra.
I think it's these people the politicians are talking about. You know - the ones whose job it is to pay. For everything.
sleep envy said:
Simpo Two said:
People without children seem to be cash/tax cows
EFA
king too right 
Next up is that stupid legislation whereby people who have got kids are allowed flexitime. Guess what that's going to mean: people without kids will have to cover all the s
tty hours. 
Next place I go to I'm going to lie and say I've got kids to take advantage of this. I'm going to invent ficticious and fabulous exam results and have him with an IQ of 192 just to annoy other parents (there's not much worse than someone blowing off how clever their kid is).
oyster said:
This phrase has appeared in the last few years, I suspect put into the lexicon by a NuLabia spin doctor. But it's now being used by the other parties too. WTF is it all about?
What on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
family without 2 or more buy to letsWhat on earth is a hard working family? Or do they just mean average family but feel this might hurt their feelings?
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