Mansell the master overtaker
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A bit bored while off work, so I knocked this together this afternoon: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xwZTpqj97lI
Sorry for the poor quality, but I'm kinda lacking footage, music, editing software etc etc.
I was trying to think of other examples, apart from an Indycar example. I guess I can add to it as I remember other stuff.
Sorry for the poor quality, but I'm kinda lacking footage, music, editing software etc etc.
I was trying to think of other examples, apart from an Indycar example. I guess I can add to it as I remember other stuff.
I can't watch it right now, but I will when I get home from work.
If you're struggling with footage in the future, try this website:
www.racing-underground.com
It's a torrent site exclusively for motorsport of pretty much every kind. It's a top site, you can get entire onboard races for the F1 for example.
Enjoy wasting a lot of time on that!
If you're struggling with footage in the future, try this website:
www.racing-underground.com
It's a torrent site exclusively for motorsport of pretty much every kind. It's a top site, you can get entire onboard races for the F1 for example.
Enjoy wasting a lot of time on that!
Got to have the amazing overtake at Monza , around the outside , I think it was on Berger , then the comeback three races he did at Williams with Hill , the last race in Australia he seemed to overtake everyone , then you could even use his last race in the BTCC which was an epic battle with Cleland , Warwick etc and they even all managed to stay friends afterwards.
RedexR said:
Got to have the amazing overtake at Monza , around the outside , I think it was on Berger , then the comeback three races he did at Williams with Hill , the last race in Australia he seemed to overtake everyone , then you could even use his last race in the BTCC which was an epic battle with Cleland , Warwick etc and they even all managed to stay friends afterwards.
It was Berger around the outside of the final corner at Mexico, not Monza - but it was a very similar track layout!Mansell had some great battles with Emerson Fittipaldi in Indycars in 1993. I remember a tyres locked overtake up the inside at Surfers Paradise that year, at 5:34 in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vJSNTSmJWQ
MrKipling43 said:
I can't watch it right now, but I will when I get home from work.
If you're struggling with footage in the future, try this website:
www.racing-underground.com
It's a torrent site exclusively for motorsport of pretty much every kind. It's a top site, you can get entire onboard races for the F1 for example.
Enjoy wasting a lot of time on that!
Mr Kipling, What is the 'Invitation Code' when you try to register?If you're struggling with footage in the future, try this website:
www.racing-underground.com
It's a torrent site exclusively for motorsport of pretty much every kind. It's a top site, you can get entire onboard races for the F1 for example.
Enjoy wasting a lot of time on that!
Spoons said:
Mr Kipling, What is the 'Invitation Code' when you try to register?
On the website there's this now (recent change)Racing underground said:
Why did we switch to invite-only?
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I'm a VIP on RU, but I do have a negative GB difference. How does that work?
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I have a very fast connection and I used to seed large amounts
We appreciate all the seeding that you've done so far and we hope you will continue to do so in the future, but we would like to see extreme overseeding kept to a minimum. There needs to be an equal playing field for all members, and if high-end members are "stealing" the upload stats from other members with low-end connections, the latter ones will be the members that suffer. So overseeding in combination with common sense is allowed, but try to think about the low-end members as well.
How does it exactly work?
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You are responsible for your own 'invitees', so if they receive a warning for whatever reason, you will be held accountable as well. For this reason, we've added another section in your User CP in which you can keep an eye out on your invitees. It contains their uploaded amount, downloaded amount and current GB difference. This section only shows up once you've actually got active invitees (ie. if they registered and used an account).
I haven't received any invitations yet, how come?
We're currently still working on a fair system to hand out invitations, but I can tell you that invitations won't be given out to members with a negative GB difference over 25 GB (-25). This to prevent members with a bad GB difference to create a new account for themselves and dodge the 'seeding' bullet. But again, there will be some exceptions to this rule, the same applies as mentioned earlier.
I have a -4GB ratio so well within the limits so I might get some invitations to give out soon.....It has come to our attention that a lot of people are abusing our "non-ratio" system and are leeching their ass off and simply create a new account as soon as it gets disabled. This is not what we intended with our policy, so we've made some small changes.
What does this mean for you?
As a current RU member not much will change. We are going to set a maximum negative GB difference, because there are too many members who don't care about others and stop seeding a torrent once the download has completed. We always say "seed as much as you can, when you can", but we do have a limit for certain site behaviour.
I'm a VIP on RU, but I do have a negative GB difference. How does that work?
The VIP status will change as well. The old system would give donors a lifetime VIP status, but with this new system, all donations coming from members that will be made from December onwards, will have limited VIP status (depending on their donated amount). This means that a donation in combination with a -100 GB (or more) difference won't automatically mean a lifetime of security. On another note, donating to RU will "buy off" some of your GB difference, depending on the donated amount. Exact numbers will be calculated within a few days and announcened in this thread.
What will be different for me as a member?
From this moment onwards, members with a negative GB difference over 100 GB (-100 GB), will get three months to get their GB difference up to a decent level. This should be enough time to seed the files you have downloaded and start 'fresh' for the new racing season in 2009. March 1st, 2009 has been the appointed date on which all accounts that have a higher negative GB difference will be disabled and eventually removed.
However, there will be some exceptions to that rule. Members who upload a lot of (valuable) torrents, are helpful towards the community, have donated money to RU (> 25 euro) or are in any other way valuable for this community, will receive leniency. No, this is not a method to receive more donations, we simply would've asked for more donations if that were the case.
I have a very fast connection and I used to seed large amounts
We appreciate all the seeding that you've done so far and we hope you will continue to do so in the future, but we would like to see extreme overseeding kept to a minimum. There needs to be an equal playing field for all members, and if high-end members are "stealing" the upload stats from other members with low-end connections, the latter ones will be the members that suffer. So overseeding in combination with common sense is allowed, but try to think about the low-end members as well.
How does it exactly work?
If you received invitations from our system, you will notice a new section in your User CP which allows you to generate a new invitation code. You can send the invitation code to someone you want to invite and allows them to register a new account. We've chosen for a person-to-person system, because invite systems using emails tend to fail a lot of the time and it is less personal. This usually leads to random people getting invited and that's exactly what we want to avoid.
Once someone received your invitation code, they can go to our register page and add the invitation code in the appropriate text field and fill out the rest of the registration form. Without a valid invitation code it is impossible to register a new account. Each invitation code will only work once, so for each new 'invitee', you will have to generate a new invitation code.
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I haven't received any invitations yet, how come?
We're currently still working on a fair system to hand out invitations, but I can tell you that invitations won't be given out to members with a negative GB difference over 25 GB (-25). This to prevent members with a bad GB difference to create a new account for themselves and dodge the 'seeding' bullet. But again, there will be some exceptions to this rule, the same applies as mentioned earlier.
Bit of a delayed thread response.
Yeah I know of loads (and loads and loads) of great Nige overtakes and I'm planning on doing one all in one vid, though it may take a considerable amount of video watching... It's a challenge, but I'm up for it!
Anyway, this was just a demo of using backmarkers for overtakes. I was originally going to do all backmarker opportunist stuff, until I realised our Nige almost had a monopoly in the field!
I did miss another Nige classic in Estoril '89, using the draft of the lapped Derek Warwick to take Berger on the main straight.
When it comes to overtaking Nige is quite simply in a league of his own.
Yeah I know of loads (and loads and loads) of great Nige overtakes and I'm planning on doing one all in one vid, though it may take a considerable amount of video watching... It's a challenge, but I'm up for it!
Anyway, this was just a demo of using backmarkers for overtakes. I was originally going to do all backmarker opportunist stuff, until I realised our Nige almost had a monopoly in the field! I did miss another Nige classic in Estoril '89, using the draft of the lapped Derek Warwick to take Berger on the main straight.
When it comes to overtaking Nige is quite simply in a league of his own.

You could put in the end of the Dallas GP where he tried to push his car over the line , to me it typified the determination of the man , also that crash at the Monaco GP (JPS Lotus) where he found himself unexpectedly in the lead in the wet only to lose it in the barriers , it was probably his first experience of real pressure.
You could include some of this too - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zXkWUCBoe4k
FourWheelDrift said:
You could include some of this too - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zXkWUCBoe4k
Ah no, that memory is reserved for my "Racing's greatest showman" vid. 
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