How many miles are the ferrari engines good for?
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I'm considering a F355 and i was wondering what is the balance between good mileage and value? If a car has Full Ferrari Service History and say 47k miles on it should it be avoided say against a car with nearly perfect service history but 20k miles which is 10k more to buy?
any of you lot had any experiences with this type of thing? the reason i ask is because i'm buying it to drive it so i'm going to put 30k miles on the clock anyway going abroad etc so is it worth me spending the extra to buy the low miuleage car when i'm going to put a load of miles on anyway?
any thoughts / shared experiences would be very welcome.
Probably best to try us folk in the Ferrari section, but (like any car) things tend to go wrong if they are not used. So for a 10+ year old car, 40k+ miles is not huge.
The engines seem fairly robust. There are guys with 80-90k+ miles still going strong so I'd not get too caught up in the whole 'If I drive it too much, it will blow up' mentality.
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The engines seem fairly robust. There are guys with 80-90k+ miles still going strong so I'd not get too caught up in the whole 'If I drive it too much, it will blow up' mentality.
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Edited by Cactussed on Wednesday 26th November 17:57
So long as the electronics are checked, the belts have been changed to schedule and the service history from the dealer is OK then many cars will go on for good mileage. The cars are not as well built as a Porsche but just keep on top of paint chips etc, regular oil changes, gearbox parts, suspension parts and radiators....80K is easily possible without major mishaps.
Autocar. There was a feature on a 120k F360. It was only 3 years old - eventually turned into a track weapon as no-one was willing to give a decent PX figure.
Hope that helps - if you want me to dig out the copy, I could do, though it would take time - I have about 500 issues of autocar and no idea which one it's from.
Hope that helps - if you want me to dig out the copy, I could do, though it would take time - I have about 500 issues of autocar and no idea which one it's from.
TomJS said:
Autocar. There was a feature on a 120k F360. It was only 3 years old - eventually turned into a track weapon as no-one was willing to give a decent PX figure.
Hope that helps - if you want me to dig out the copy, I could do, though it would take time - I have about 500 issues of autocar and no idea which one it's from.
There you go! Hope that helps - if you want me to dig out the copy, I could do, though it would take time - I have about 500 issues of autocar and no idea which one it's from.
Doesn't the 355 have chains?
Anyway, if it's well looked after it will go on for bloody ages. 'High' mileages, even on Italian Supercars Which Always Break Down Don't They (tm), just aren't as big an issue as they were. Material technology has moved on so much since the days when Ferraris genuinely were unreliable, as long as it's been well looked after you won't have a problem.
I would say at 40k miles it's just getting into its stride. I hate to bring it up again, but according to Flemke, his McLaren is in far ruder health than many of the low mileage examples. And with a 6.0 litre, 650bhp+ V12 motor it's not what you'd call a 'relaxed' state of tune.
Anyway, if it's well looked after it will go on for bloody ages. 'High' mileages, even on Italian Supercars Which Always Break Down Don't They (tm), just aren't as big an issue as they were. Material technology has moved on so much since the days when Ferraris genuinely were unreliable, as long as it's been well looked after you won't have a problem.
I would say at 40k miles it's just getting into its stride. I hate to bring it up again, but according to Flemke, his McLaren is in far ruder health than many of the low mileage examples. And with a 6.0 litre, 650bhp+ V12 motor it's not what you'd call a 'relaxed' state of tune.
gj88 said:
I read about at 360 that had 100k+ on the clock if I remember rightly. It was a while back and I cant remember what magazine it was it. I'm sure somone on here will know!
That was a customer of mine, he works at Pinewood Studios and commuted from Birmingham everyday, cost him £30k or thereabouts in running costs etc inc a £12k rebuild IIRC. Car is now used as a Ferrari experience car.
appreciated. gj88 said:
I read about at 360 that had 100k+ on the clock if I remember rightly. It was a while back and I cant remember what magazine it was it. I'm sure somone on here will know!
My 360 is on 80,000 miles and I've done the vast majority of those. I know verdi has had a couple of 100,000 mile cars in. Proper servicing combined with actually driving the thing = solid car.Bebs said:
gj88 said:
I read about at 360 that had 100k+ on the clock if I remember rightly. It was a while back and I cant remember what magazine it was it. I'm sure somone on here will know!
My 360 is on 80,000 miles and I've done the vast majority of those. I know verdi has had a couple of 100,000 mile cars in. Proper servicing combined with actually driving the thing = solid car.MrKipling43 said:
Bebs said:
gj88 said:
I read about at 360 that had 100k+ on the clock if I remember rightly. It was a while back and I cant remember what magazine it was it. I'm sure somone on here will know!
My 360 is on 80,000 miles and I've done the vast majority of those. I know verdi has had a couple of 100,000 mile cars in. Proper servicing combined with actually driving the thing = solid car.
Generally problems occour when someone buys a £30,000 Ferrari and start letting servicing slide because they didn't budget for running a £100,000 car.Cactussed said:
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Edited by Cactussed on Wednesday 26th November 17:57
You should try owning a TVR and seeing how many 'experts' are out there who's friends, second cousins uncle owned one and had loads of problems!
I bought a 355 with just under 37k miles on it. It wasnt concourse, but is in excellent condition. I wanted something that had been used and was genuine in its mileage rather that just trying to get something with nothing on the clock. These cars dont like being stood, they are far better when driven, and do tend to go wrong less. People get so caught up in not putting miles on them, or trying to get something that appears to be very low mileage. At the end of the day, cars like the 355 arent that new anymore, and mileage has to occur unless they are museam pieces!
I've put 5.5k miles on mine since I bought it in Feb, and its as tight as a drum. Only thing that has caught me out is the slow down system, but that was traced finally to a bad connection. Service them bang on, and be active with your maintenance rather than reactive, and they are tough cars mechanically.
I've put 5.5k miles on mine since I bought it in Feb, and its as tight as a drum. Only thing that has caught me out is the slow down system, but that was traced finally to a bad connection. Service them bang on, and be active with your maintenance rather than reactive, and they are tough cars mechanically.
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