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mitzy

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13,858 posts

226 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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We have some cranes that have been used for the building next door to us , three of them.

Looking out of the window today there now seems to be one.

This building is 15 Story's high.

Anyone know who they dismantle them when they go through the building . And how they get the last one down?


Nobby Diesel

2,117 posts

280 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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They put them up and take them down with massive mobile (road going lorry type)cranes.

MonkeyBusiness

4,243 posts

216 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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I always wondered this.
Some good explanations here : http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=200...


Bungleaio

6,587 posts

231 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Percy Flage

1,770 posts

251 months

Percy Flage

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251 months

Mike400

1,026 posts

260 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Its all a big lie - what they actually do is box the crane in and plaster / paint it up.

Have you ever been on the roof of your building? go up there and youll find the boom of the crane that built yours!





  • disclaimer - I might have made this up

PeteG

4,278 posts

240 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Mike400 said:
Its all a big lie - what they actually do is box the crane in and plaster / paint it up.

Have you ever been on the roof of your building? go up there and youll find the boom of the crane that built yours!





  • disclaimer - I might have made this up
hehe

rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Mike400 said:
Its all a big lie - what they actually do is box the crane in and plaster / paint it up.

Have you ever been on the roof of your building? go up there and youll find the boom of the crane that built yours!





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Waits to be corrected but i think that in the bigger buildings they often tend to use most of the crane to form the lift shaft.

i am happy to be corrected though.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

278 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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hehe @ Mike 400

Weve got a 17/18 storey building in Town with a large fixed crane. When they put it up they shut the road off for a weekend and brought in the biggest 'Fox trot oscar' mobile crane you'd ever seen to put it up. It had extra jibs to reach the required height brought in by other lorries.

Whoops!! maybe this should have gone on the other thread.
An example of the size of a huge mobile crane.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-ENqgjQXM

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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How will they get this puppy down I wonder?




andya7

291 posts

245 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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'self erecting cranes' are generally used for the larger ones, worth watching (once!)

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Neil_H said:
How will they get this puppy down I wonder?
they lob it over the side when the site manager isn't looking

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

278 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Here's how they dismantle up to a certain height.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_j8t4H5eNUI&feat...

For the real high ones they are self dismantling. At a guess the crane has a way of turning around on it's counterweight construction to lower it down part by part. The main boom would then be raised vertical so it fits down the centre of the building. At the bottom of the building they take out a section at a time, lowering the crane as they go. Again I'm only guessing, otherwise just push it over the side and hope for the best, as already mentioned wink

muffinmenace

1,100 posts

217 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Neil_H said:
How will they get this puppy down I wonder?
With great difficulty!

ALawson

8,054 posts

280 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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The cranes use a climbing frame that fits around the mast, depending upon if you are going up or down the crane slew ring (the bit under hammerhead) is connected to the top of the frame, this then jacks it up the hight of one mast section. They then lift another section in and repeat. Going down is the reverse process.

This is how not to do it.

http://www.sitbonzo.com/crane/

With respect to the one in the post above we have been discussing this for a while, there doesn't appear to be another crane close to the one on the roof and the mast doesn't go down to the floor.

I bet they take it down with a helicopter.


Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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ZR1cliff said:
The main boom would then be raised vertical so it fits down the centre of the building. At the bottom of the building they take out a section at a time, lowering the crane as they go.
I'm not sure they could do that. There will be lift shafts but I doubt they'd be big enough and would have gubbins in it by that time. The don't think the Burj lifts even go all the way to the top.

The only way I can see is dismantle it, and then send it down piece by piece perhaps with changeover points on the way down (otherwise they'd need a helluva big cable).


Edited by Neil_H on Monday 1st December 14:35

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

278 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Neil_H said:
ZR1cliff said:
The main boom would then be raised vertical so it fits down the centre of the building. At the bottom of the building they take out a section at a time, lowering the crane as they go.
I'm not sure they could do that. There will be lift shafts but I doubt they'd be big enough and would have gubbins in it by that time. The don't think the Burj lifts even go all the way to the top.

The only way I can see is dismantle it, and then send it down piece by piece perhaps with changeover points on the way down (otherwise they'd need a helluva big cable).
Again I'm only guessing but maybe the main mast doesn't use a lift shaft and has it's own opening through the building floors, secured at intervals. And has some system to take out a section at a time. It's got me wondering now scratchchin

Mattygooner

5,304 posts

233 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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[quote=Neil_H]How will they get this puppy down I wonder?

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Looks like a launch platform, perhaps they attach a warhead and fire it at North Korea...just for sts and giggles.

wildoliver

9,308 posts

245 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Can you imagine the poor sod having to climb up that every day.