Rat problem - advice
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Grand Fromage

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1,518 posts

236 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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I have always known that there are rats in the outbuildings but recently they have started coming closer and closer to the house and have now taken up living in my main shed and garage. They are coming to the bottom of the bird feeder which is only 10ft away from our back door. Which is the quickest way to kill them?

Thanks

fatboy b

9,665 posts

245 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Probably best deter them rather than kill them. A few ideas here.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

261 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Probably best to kill them rather than deter them. Infinitely more fun.
Buy an airrifle and it will be the best fun youve had in years.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

227 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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peanut butter. They go crazy for it. Rats don't like changes to there "runs" it can take weeks for them to walk into a trap even if it is the most commonly used run.... Peanut butter laced with warferin... they bleed to death......

Alex

9,978 posts

313 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Put a sleeping bag in your shed and charge people for an "I'm a Celebrity" experience.

DBSV8

5,958 posts

267 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Grand Fromage said:
I have always known that there are rats in the outbuildings but recently they have started coming closer and closer to the house and have now taken up living in my main shed and garage. They are coming to the bottom of the bird feeder which is only 10ft away from our back door. Which is the quickest way to kill them?

Thanks
some info here

http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/rats.htm

If it helps we had around 20 in the summer who took up residence in the in laws ""Banya"" ....tempted to get air rifle ,
In the end rat poison did the trick , just make sure the feckers dont die under the floorboards otherwise they will smell as they rot !!!

Warfarin

Gaspode

4,167 posts

225 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Your local authority almost certainly does a free vermin extermination service. We had exactly the same problem last year - rats living in the barns moved closer and closer to the house, culminating in building a nest in the garden and one of the blighters even gnawed though into our larder.

We called the local council and they sent a chap out the next day to put poison down. He was very nonchalant about the whole thing, apparently "You're never more than 20 feet from a rat", scattered loads of little blue plastic bags around the place. siad there'd be no smell and we'd be lucky if we even found a dead rat. No charge or any forms to fill in, nice and easy.

Over the next few days we found 2 dead adults, and the cats caught a couple of baby rats when they emerged from their nest, probably wondering why mum and dad hadn't come home from the pie shop.

Haven't had a problem since.

OJ

14,209 posts

257 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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fatboy b said:
Probably best deter them rather than kill them. A few ideas here.
I hear they have a penchant for musical pipes? Perhaps you could hire your local musician to lure them to your local river. Don't forget to pay him.

Edited by OJ on Tuesday 2nd December 08:49

Gaspode

4,167 posts

225 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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DBSV8 said:
just make sure the feckers dont die under the floorboards otherwise they will smell as they rot !!!

Warfarin
Warfarin works by causing internal bleeding, doesn't it? No wonder they stink as they rot if you give them that. I think modern rat poisons work by effectively dehydrating the rat so you end up with a semi-mummified corpse that doesn't rot. Certainly the stuff that our council ratman put down didn't cause any smell.

Edited by Gaspode on Tuesday 2nd December 08:51

merc_man

1,926 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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1. Buy air rifle
2. Take a seat out into the garden near where the rats are.
3. Load air rifle
4. Put a piece of bread smeared with peanut butter on the ground about 10 feet away and secure with small stake.
5. Sit down and shoot the rat who will by now be gnawing at the bread.
6. Get up and move dead rat away from bread.
7. Go to step 5 until no more rats.

Great fun.

RobM77

35,349 posts

263 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Why is it fun to kill things? That's two suggestions that it's fun within about 15 posts. There are some strange people on Pistonheads!! rofl

Fetchez la vache

5,902 posts

243 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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You'll find that your local council will get rid of them / kill them for free for you - whichever floats your boat.
- if they are rats anyway.

By all means spend money on things which may or may not work, but why not get the rat man in for free, and he does it every day.

Of course if you like sitting on a stool in the snow with an air rifle go for it biggrin

JayBM

467 posts

224 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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1. Mix peanut butter with petrol or another flammable liquid.....buy a couple of pet rats and attach timed ignitors to them. Feed the wild rats the p.butter/pertrol mix and after a day or 2 introduce the pet rats with the timers set!

2. Rebuild house

And no I have not watched "Wanted" in the last week!


shirt

25,413 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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does the peanut butter thing work on mice as well as rats?

i've had 6 traps baited with peanut butter around the house and only caught one of the buggers in 7 days. all i hear at night is little mousey bds scratting at the floorboards.

is there something else they would be attracted to? i saw rentokil bait in the diy shop but thought the peanut butter would work. maybe they want smooth rather than nutty.

barney123

495 posts

240 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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shirt said:
does the peanut butter thing work on mice as well as rats?

i've had 6 traps baited with peanut butter around the house and only caught one of the buggers in 7 days. all i hear at night is little mousey bds scratting at the floorboards.

is there something else they would be attracted to? i saw rentokil bait in the diy shop but thought the peanut butter would work. maybe they want smooth rather than nutty.
Can you kill mice by anaphylactic shock ?

B.J.W

5,875 posts

244 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Try one of these:



Used to go ratting at my friends' farm with his 'jacks'. They had some submerged grain silos that used to be swarming with rats. Lift the lid up, in goes the dog, lid back on; wait 5 minutes. Lift dog out, hose down. Job done.

Cats are lazy feckers compared to terriers. Our current terrier would hunt all day if he could. Result? The stables are now pretty much rat free. A fair few have been killed; the rest don't dare venture outside or have been driven off elswhere.

mark69sheer

3,906 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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look for their runs (a greasy line against the side of a shed or wall where their bodies rub against it as they walk around. place a two foot long piece of plastic drainpipe on the run so they 'walk through it' leave it there empty for a few days untill they start walking through it and scatter some porridge oats in the pipe to encourage them yo use it. After a week when the oats are regularly being eaten swap the oats for warfarin based oat rat poison. keep topping up the poison trap until it's no longer eaten and your rats are gone.
I was trained as a ratcatcher when I was in the army to keep them away from our billets.
Handle them with gloves as they may have weils disease.

Also large traditional 'mouse traps' called 'The Nipper' are effective too baited with chocolate.

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Get a cat.

Davel

8,982 posts

287 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Well I feel really guilty today.

Over the past week or so, my wife thought that there was a clog wearing elephant in our loft.

A thorough inspection showed no droppings etc but there were signs of the lagging being nibbled around the pipes etc and so a trip to B & Q was in order.

After a few days of putting warfarin treated oats down, the little bugger was still paying nightly visits and so last night I baited a couple of traps.

Half way through the night, there was an awful clatter which woke us both up.

This was followed by a small amout of scratching as the little bugger breathed its last gasp and died.

This morning, I found the cutest little mouse lying with its neck trapped.

I feel wracked with guilt.

Will I now go to hell?




shirt

25,413 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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no you won't, but it upsets me having to kill them as well as i used to keep mice as a kid.

unfortunately the human traps just do not work. i tried 3 kinds and didn't catch a thing in 6 weeks of trying last winter. bought 4 traps and had 3 dead mice in a week.

only 1 caught so far this year, hopefully get his mates soon.