New build gone UP in price!
New build gone UP in price!
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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I'm sure some will remember the fact that i've got my eye on a new build property (not wishing to get into debates about how crap new builds are!). The property first came to light in October when they said they would market it at £275 with stamp paid, they now say the house will be on the market near Christmas but will not be complete until January, the price has gone UP to £279,950! Now seeing as they are small time builders and a LARGER property(built by them!) in the SAME area sold a YEAR AGO for LESS than this are they taking the piss or what?! In my eyes they know full well they are going to get knocked down and are hoping that by inflating the price this will cushion it somewhat. I'll talk to wifey when she gets home but i'm all up for offering what i think it's worth based on the above facts & walking away. I know she loves it but the fact is house prices are going one way & one way only for the next 12-18 months. ps, they paid £63k for the land which is bugger all IMO, wish i'd known back then-would have done a self build!!

ETA-the house that sold for less last year was built by them! I've got plans for both-current one is much smaller.

Edited by Dave_ST220 on Tuesday 2nd December 12:50

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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I sold a 1 bed house in August 2007, right at the peak, and moved 'up' into a 4 bed detached. In hindsight we should have put the equity in the bank and rented for a few years, but we did not. That said we are over the moon with our house.

My advice to you would be to bank the equity, rent, and consider buying just after the trough ends, whenever that is.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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I've looked at renting but TBH with all the fees i'd have to pay i think i'd be better off staying put & dropping the house by the probable 15% drop next year...........

Simpo Two

92,736 posts

294 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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The fewer houses they sell, the more expensive each one needs to be in order for them to stay in business.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Surely the fees for a rental could be no more than a few hundred quid? Your deposit will be returnable at the end of the lease.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Simpo Two said:
The fewer houses they sell, the more expensive each one needs to be in order for them to stay in business.
Exactly-if someone pays that though they are a mug who has been drawn in by a fancy kitchen & bathroom!!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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hornetrider said:
Surely the fees for a rental could be no more than a few hundred quid? Your deposit will be returnable at the end of the lease.
I'd have a massive fee from ending the mortgage early & then 12 months rent on top. The sums don't add up for me.

MikeyT

18,381 posts

300 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Whereabouts in the UK is it?

eccles

14,376 posts

251 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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hornetrider said:
Surely the fees for a rental could be no more than a few hundred quid? Your deposit will be returnable at the end of the lease.
I seem to recall the only fees I paid (18 months ago) were something like £60 as an admin fee for them to check references etc.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Dave_ST220 said:
I'd have a massive fee from ending the mortgage early & then 12 months rent on top. The sums don't add up for me.
Ah, you're tied in. So are you staying with the same provider, just moving it/increasing it to be on a different property? Are there no fees for changing house and increasing the size of the mortgage? What if you theoretically want to downsize - how does that work?

briSk

14,291 posts

255 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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eccles said:
hornetrider said:
Surely the fees for a rental could be no more than a few hundred quid? Your deposit will be returnable at the end of the lease.
I seem to recall the only fees I paid (18 months ago) were something like £60 as an admin fee for them to check references etc.
in this position now.

paid £200 as a combined 2 person credit check and 'holding fee'.

seems reasonable to me.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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hornetrider said:
Dave_ST220 said:
I'd have a massive fee from ending the mortgage early & then 12 months rent on top. The sums don't add up for me.
Ah, you're tied in. So are you staying with the same provider, just moving it/increasing it to be on a different property? Are there no fees for changing house and increasing the size of the mortgage? What if you theoretically want to downsize - how does that work?
Yes, & if we did it the two would come to the end of fixed rate at the same time. No fees if increasing as the extra equity is a seperate morgage. Downsizing-haven't looked tbh as not an option!!

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Dave_ST220 said:
In my eyes they know full well they are going to get knocked down and are hoping that by inflating the price this will cushion it somewhat.
I think you are spot on. Bump the price artificially high so the low-ball offers they get won't be as low.....It's not going to put any buyers off as it's only £5k difference and they will all be thinking they can knock 20%+ off it.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Read my mind on initial offer wink Agent is insisting they aren't interested in ANY offers, only time will tell who's right eh?!

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Dave_ST220 said:
Simpo Two said:
The fewer houses they sell, the more expensive each one needs to be in order for them to stay in business.
Exactly-if someone pays that though they are a mug who has been drawn in by a fancy kitchen & bathroom!!
Or it is someone who can afford it and wants that home?

A home isn't just an investment.

briSk

14,291 posts

255 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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as said they're trying to price in enough room for big discounts.

at the end of the day it was and is and always will be a c£225ish house.

in my town developers have just started marketing some, albeit nice, 3 bed 'apartments' for £425k. good luck! they're £325k at most.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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elster said:
Dave_ST220 said:
Simpo Two said:
The fewer houses they sell, the more expensive each one needs to be in order for them to stay in business.
Exactly-if someone pays that though they are a mug who has been drawn in by a fancy kitchen & bathroom!!
Or it is someone who can afford it and wants that home?

A home isn't just an investment.
Who in their right mind buys anything like this as an investement??!!(that';s why there is a lot of people in a right mess now). Not me, i can afford it easily but i'm not stupid enough to spend 40 odd grand that i don't need to!(by waiting 12 months).

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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briSk said:
as said they're trying to price in enough room for big discounts.

at the end of the day it was and is and always will be a c£225ish house.

in my town developers have just started marketing some, albeit nice, 3 bed 'apartments' for £425k. good luck! they're £325k at most.
My thoughts exactly! Deep down they know it, i'm hoping that come Feb if they haven't got anywhere they'll see sense..........

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Dave_ST220 said:
elster said:
Dave_ST220 said:
Simpo Two said:
The fewer houses they sell, the more expensive each one needs to be in order for them to stay in business.
Exactly-if someone pays that though they are a mug who has been drawn in by a fancy kitchen & bathroom!!
Or it is someone who can afford it and wants that home?

A home isn't just an investment.
Who in their right mind buys anything like this as an investement??!!(that';s why there is a lot of people in a right mess now). Not me, i can afford it easily but i'm not stupid enough to spend 40 odd grand that i don't need to!(by waiting 12 months).
No they buy a home. If someone is planning on living their life there. It is great.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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I don't follow your point, you'd spend way over the odds becuase you like it so much? You dont think the market will go down probably 10-15% before things get better?