My mate has put standard unleaded in his Wortec remapped Mon

[BigNige]

My mate has put standard unleaded in his Wortec remapped Monaro.
What's the best way for my mates car to get back up to proper power and how long does it take?

My mate thanks you.

Edited by BigNige on Tuesday 2nd December 21:08

[ringram]

Assuming he isnt hammering it into knock zone, then it should be fine when he refills. Worse case just reset the PCM by pulling the PCM fuse out when he refills the adaptive spark scaler should be reset. That will also wipe out those troublesome long term fuel trims, which are the work of satan.

[BigNige]

Thanks Ringram.
My mate is now wondering where the PCM fuse is?

He's such a tt...is my mate.

[Bonnie and Clyde]

BigNige said:

Thanks Ringram.
My mate is now wondering where the PCM fuse is?

He's such a tt...is my mate.

How did you, sorry your mate manage to do that

[wolfracer]

Has your mate noticed any power difference?
What was is it mapped to? ie cats, cams headers, catback, s/c etc???
Just wondering 'cos I have a mate who might fill up with Super and pull that fuse to see if any noticeable difference.
BTW
Is that the same fuse which sets the idle? Mine took AGES last time to settle down to a nice steady idle after something was "reset".

[stigmundfreud]

its the BCM fues Nige, in the engine fues box its labled as such you will, sorry your mate, will need a removal tool/tweesers.

BTW unless Wortec are running a super aggressive timing map you will be ok. Its only on very high load that you would expect (normally) any detnonation. I'm sure Monkfish will be able to state whether their tunes are specific for high octane but I'm running the HSV clubsport map and that is fine on 95.

[stigmundfreud]

wolfracer said:

Has your mate noticed any power difference?
What was is it mapped to? ie cats, cams headers, catback, s/c etc???
Just wondering 'cos I have a mate who might fill up with Super and pull that fuse to see if any noticeable difference.
BTW
Is that the same fuse which sets the idle? Mine took AGES last time to settle down to a nice steady idle after something was "reset".

You will almost undoubtedly notice a difference in response pulling hte fues as it will zero out your long term fuel trims.I just got fed up of them skewing st so turned them off

[BigNige]

stigmundfreud said:

its the BCM fues Nige, in the engine fues box its labled as such you will, sorry your mate, will need a removal tool/tweesers.

BTW unless Wortec are running a super aggressive timing map you will be ok. Its only on very high load that you would expect (normally) any detnonation. I'm sure Monkfish will be able to state whether their tunes are specific for high octane but I'm running the HSV clubsport map and that is fine on 95.

My mate says thanks and wonders if it's ok to run on 95 all the time then or for say a long & boring motorway based journey?

[Bonnie and Clyde]

stigmundfreud said:

its the BCM fues Nige, in the engine fues box its labled as such you will, sorry your mate, will need a removal tool/tweesers.

BTW unless Wortec are running a super aggressive timing map you will be ok. Its only on very high load that you would expect (normally) any detnonation. I'm sure Monkfish will be able to state whether their tunes are specific for high octane but I'm running the HSV clubsport map and that is fine on 95.

Is that the fuse we pulled from mine at Shakeys?

[monkfish1]

BigNige said:

stigmundfreud said:

its the BCM fues Nige, in the engine fues box its labled as such you will, sorry your mate, will need a removal tool/tweesers.

BTW unless Wortec are running a super aggressive timing map you will be ok. Its only on very high load that you would expect (normally) any detnonation. I'm sure Monkfish will be able to state whether their tunes are specific for high octane but I'm running the HSV clubsport map and that is fine on 95.

My mate says thanks and wonders if it's ok to run on 95 all the time then or for say a long & boring motorway based journey?

95 will knock it back a little bit. It will recover once you use decent fuel again, but it does take a while. Pulling the fuse (with it turned on) will reset it. Either way the car will take care of it.

[monkfish1]

wolfracer said:

Has your mate noticed any power difference?
What was is it mapped to? ie cats, cams headers, catback, s/c etc???
Just wondering 'cos I have a mate who might fill up with Super and pull that fuse to see if any noticeable difference.
BTW
Is that the same fuse which sets the idle? Mine took AGES last time to settle down to a nice steady idle after something was "reset".

Ahh, but you have an 05 CV8. It has many unique features!

[BigNige]

Many thanks for all the advice chaps, much appreciated.

errr...says my mate

[wolfracer]

monkfish1 said:

wolfracer said:

Has your mate noticed any power difference?
What was is it mapped to? ie cats, cams headers, catback, s/c etc???
Just wondering 'cos I have a mate who might fill up with Super and pull that fuse to see if any noticeable difference.
BTW
Is that the same fuse which sets the idle? Mine took AGES last time to settle down to a nice steady idle after something was "reset".

Ahh, but you have an 05 CV8. It has many unique features!

Tell me about it!
So is it the same fuse or not? Is it worth pulling or will it revert back to my "normal" tune the minute i put 95 ron in it?
I do up to 800 miles a week, so 95 suits me fine. Just wanted to play really......!?

[stigmundfreud]

Bonnie and Clyde said:

stigmundfreud said:

its the BCM fues Nige, in the engine fues box its labled as such you will, sorry your mate, will need a removal tool/tweesers.

BTW unless Wortec are running a super aggressive timing map you will be ok. Its only on very high load that you would expect (normally) any detnonation. I'm sure Monkfish will be able to state whether their tunes are specific for high octane but I'm running the HSV clubsport map and that is fine on 95.

Is that the fuse we pulled from mine at Shakeys?

yes, the bcm fues. Its possible to force the car to disable ltft but you need access to tuning kit to do this. It isnt actually a mahoosive difference but it just ensures a crisper throttle response instead of getting fueling adjusted based on historic fueling trends built up over time.

I wouldn't worry about it mel, I just turned it off cos I can

[monkfish1]

wolfracer said:

monkfish1 said:

wolfracer said:

Has your mate noticed any power difference?
What was is it mapped to? ie cats, cams headers, catback, s/c etc???
Just wondering 'cos I have a mate who might fill up with Super and pull that fuse to see if any noticeable difference.
BTW
Is that the same fuse which sets the idle? Mine took AGES last time to settle down to a nice steady idle after something was "reset".

Ahh, but you have an 05 CV8. It has many unique features!

Tell me about it!
So is it the same fuse or not? Is it worth pulling or will it revert back to my "normal" tune the minute i put 95 ron in it?
I do up to 800 miles a week, so 95 suits me fine. Just wanted to play really......!?

Yes, its the same fuse. It doesn't revert to your "normal/original map, just a slightly different one to ensure no issues. You can run it forever on 95, you just wont get that last little bit of performance.

[Bonnie and Clyde]

stigmundfreud said:

Bonnie and Clyde said:

stigmundfreud said:

its the BCM fues Nige, in the engine fues box its labled as such you will, sorry your mate, will need a removal tool/tweesers.

BTW unless Wortec are running a super aggressive timing map you will be ok. Its only on very high load that you would expect (normally) any detnonation. I'm sure Monkfish will be able to state whether their tunes are specific for high octane but I'm running the HSV clubsport map and that is fine on 95.

Is that the fuse we pulled from mine at Shakeys?

yes, the bcm fues. Its possible to force the car to disable ltft but you need access to tuning kit to do this. It isnt actually a mahoosive difference but it just ensures a crisper throttle response instead of getting fueling adjusted based on historic fueling trends built up over time.

I wouldn't worry about it mel, I just turned it off cos I can

Turned what off

[stigmundfreud]

on my car....

[Bonnie and Clyde]

stigmundfreud said:

on my car....

Oh ok. I thought you ment mine. You know how i panic

[BigNige]

monkfish1 said:

wolfracer said:

monkfish1 said:

wolfracer said:

Has your mate noticed any power difference?
What was is it mapped to? ie cats, cams headers, catback, s/c etc???
Just wondering 'cos I have a mate who might fill up with Super and pull that fuse to see if any noticeable difference.
BTW
Is that the same fuse which sets the idle? Mine took AGES last time to settle down to a nice steady idle after something was "reset".

Ahh, but you have an 05 CV8. It has many unique features!

Tell me about it!
So is it the same fuse or not? Is it worth pulling or will it revert back to my "normal" tune the minute i put 95 ron in it?
I do up to 800 miles a week, so 95 suits me fine. Just wanted to play really......!?

Yes, its the same fuse. It doesn't revert to your "normal/original map, just a slightly different one to ensure no issues. You can run it forever on 95, you just wont get that last little bit of performance.

Thanks Roger

Can I therefore ask that unless we're going for it big time all the time (in other words, just day to day motoring type driving) there's no need to run Super Unleaded?
And we should only really use it when we want to maximise performance (perhaps track-day, showing off having a hoon etc) otherwise we're basically wasting some cash?

[stigmundfreud]

On the road if you hear (and you will notice it!) knock, the car has an adaptive map. You have a high octane and low octane map. You have knock sensors which can retard timing when knock is detected (you prob wont even notice) and then if the car figures things are running on crap fuel it will drop you to the base map - which you will notice.

Not sure what fuel the Wortec is optmized for but I'd imagine its fine on 95, the ausies high octane map used to be for 95RON. Are you running MAFLess?