Uncle Adolph would be proud
Uncle Adolph would be proud
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rude-boy

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Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Pubs, clubs and off-licences are to be issued with new restrictions on alcohol sales which encourage irresponsible drinking.

In a series of proposals to combat low-level crime and disorder, offenders will face "tougher" community payback schemes which require them to wear high visibility bibs.

Police are also set to get powers to stop people on the street and demand they supply proof of identity - even if there are no grounds to suspect they have committed an offence.

The Queen's Speech will also feature sweeping measures to deal with the economic crisis.

Banks are likely to face huge fines for failing to treat their customers fairly with ministers making the current voluntary code of practice legally binding as part of major reforms to the financial sector.
The move follows concerns that institutions are flouting their own guidelines amid the fallout from the credit crunch.

Small businesses have raised concerns about terms and conditions for loans and overdrafts being unilaterally changed at short notice, leaving them at risk of running out of cash.

The new statutory banking code will be policed by the Financial Services Authority, with firms breaking the rules facing unlimited fines.

Other features of the package - Mr Brown's last full programme before a general election - will be a crackdown on benefit fraud and moves to get more people into work.

Welfare measures include a new "one-strike" rule for benefit cheats which would mean fraudsters could lose their entitlements for four weeks.

Benefits claimants could have to take lie detector tests under the proposals. The "voice risk analysis technology", already being used by some 25 councils, will test whether claimants are providing false information.

The unemployed will lose their Jobseeker's Allowance if they turn down any job after several months on the dole, while lone parents may be forced onto JSA rather than income support when their children reach the age of seven.

These plans will form part of a drive towards "fairness" - which will also see immigrants forced to learn English before becoming citizens and asked to contribute to the cost of pressure on local public services.

Meanwhile, the Department for Business has confirmed that all parents with children aged 16 and under will get the right to request flexible working from April 2009 - although this will not require legislation.
Employers will also be obliged to give workers time off to train or do a course unless there is a good reason to the contrary.



Edited by rude-boy on Wednesday 3rd December 09:22

Eric Mc

125,610 posts

294 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Adolph who?

Or did you mean Adolf?

mechsympathy

58,656 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Papieren Bitte.

paulmurr

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241 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Adolph who?

Or did you mean Adolf?
I was just about to post that...

rude-boy

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Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Adolph who?

Or did you mean Adolf?
Can be spelt using both versions, have a check.

Eric Mc

125,610 posts

294 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Especially on PH.

Famous Graham

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Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Especially on PH.
Or F.

DucatiGary

7,765 posts

254 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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rude boy has not read what they are doing with on the SP&L forum.

basically they want it to be a prison sentence for anyone who puts on the internet a comment or photograph about or of the police.

scary stuff

rude-boy

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Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Especially on PH.
hehe

Would it be wrong of me to say I chose this version on purpose scratchchin

BoRED S2upid

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269 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Oh yeh crack down on benefit cheats now, just before an election after years of turning Britain into a benefit state. Too little too late im afraid you just know its not going to be enforced but the media spin will be that it is, I garantee my regulars won't be working and will still be drinking.

Love the bit about the SS stopping to ask for ID. I don't always carry my wallet around with me, what are they going to do arrest me for jogging without ID?.

JagLover

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264 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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rude-boy said:
The unemployed will lose their Jobseeker's Allowance if they turn down any job after several months on the dole, while lone parents may be forced onto JSA rather than income support when their children reach the age of seven.
10 years too late

The time to reform welfare is when the economy is growing, so there is jobs for those on benefits to go to. Instead Brown has spent the last 10 years expanding the client state, while new jobs have gone to immigrants.

Besides which what will happen in practice is another matter. Labour often talks tough on such issues, while doing little in practice to penalise their core voters.

JagLover

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264 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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rude-boy said:
In a series of proposals to combat low-level crime and disorder, offenders will face "tougher" community payback schemes which require them to wear high visibility bibs.
A good idea in IMO. It is good that the public can see that justice is being done.

Plotloss

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299 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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rude-boy said:
Police are also set to get powers to stop people on the street and demand they supply proof of identity - even if there are no grounds to suspect they have committed an offence.
This country can fk off.

Deck chairs on the Titanic.

s.

rude-boy

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Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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JagLover said:
rude-boy said:
In a series of proposals to combat low-level crime and disorder, offenders will face "tougher" community payback schemes which require them to wear high visibility bibs.
A good idea in IMO. It is good that the public can see that justice is being done.
There are some ideas in there which would have been good if they hadn't come too late.

That said there are some very scary ones in there. Now i'm all for getting fit and able offenders out clearing town centres up, etc, but there are aspects of this which are going just a little too far. Hell if this is what they are prepared to say they are going to put in there, what else will they try to sneek in!

Just seen DG's post so off to SP&L to see how much trouble I am now in with the Stasi (Stazi wink ).

Plotloss

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Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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JagLover said:
rude-boy said:
In a series of proposals to combat low-level crime and disorder, offenders will face "tougher" community payback schemes which require them to wear high visibility bibs.
A good idea in IMO. It is good that the public can see that justice is being done.
Perhaps, until in the confusion a construction worker gets lynched by a Daily Mail Action Group.

collateral

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Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Plotloss said:
JagLover said:
rude-boy said:
In a series of proposals to combat low-level crime and disorder, offenders will face "tougher" community payback schemes which require them to wear high visibility bibs.
A good idea in IMO. It is good that the public can see that justice is being done.
Perhaps, until in the confusion a construction worker gets lynched by a Daily Mail Action Group.
yes First thing I thought was we'll just assume they are road workers or something

scotal

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Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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rude-boy said:
Meanwhile, the Department for Business has confirmed that all parents with children aged 16 and under will get the right to request flexible working from April 2009 - although this will not require legislation.
Ok, nice idea, but does that mean anyone with kids just became less employable than the childless? SME's and going to look at that and think its an opportunity for staff to take the piss.

Beefmeister

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259 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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My thoughts on this, along with a DNA database, ID cards etc is thus:

You only object if you have something to hide.


People bleat on about civil liberties this, 1984 that, but if it makes our streets safer, stops just one terrorist bomb, stops one kid getting knifed, then i'm all for it.

I don't break the law (aside from speeding), so i have no issue with it.

crofty1984

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Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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What's a red-nosed reindeer got to do with it?

SGirl

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Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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scotal said:
rude-boy said:
Meanwhile, the Department for Business has confirmed that all parents with children aged 16 and under will get the right to request flexible working from April 2009 - although this will not require legislation.
Ok, nice idea, but does that mean anyone with kids just became less employable than the childless? SME's and going to look at that and think its an opportunity for staff to take the piss.
Sounds like it'll be the way it is now, but over a wider child age range. You only have the right to request flexible hours, you're not automatically entitled to get them. Bosses can turn down requests.