Looking for a Sag

[saulk]

After selling my Tuscan in June it's now time to fill that gap. I really miss my TVR. I'm starting to look for a Sagaris and have a couple of questions.

I had the Carbon Cans on the Tuscan, what exhaust options are there for the Sag and if de-catted can you get it through an MOT without replacing the cats, pm me if you prefer.

Also if anyone is looking to sell theirs give me a shout.

I'm in Kent/S.London are there any owners willing to let me have a gander at their Sag?

Thanks in advance

Saul

[TIVVA]

Saul,

I have the CCC cans from my Tuscan on my Sag. Black cans with a black Sag, I just like the look, and it adds a few more pops and bangs. Also have a quiet set that i use for quiet track days. So your Tuscan cans should swap across no problem.

As for your second question, I would want a very big bag of money indeed to sell.

Cheers Garry.

[Gaffer]

You can have a look at mine if you want, but not selling and also please bear in mind she isnt the production model either so there are big differences between the 2.

Claire

[Hoolio]

saulk said:

After selling my Tuscan in June it's now time to fill that gap. I really miss my TVR. I'm starting to look for a Sagaris and have a couple of questions.

I had the Carbon Cans on the Tuscan, what exhaust options are there for the Sag and if de-catted can you get it through an MOT without replacing the cats, pm me if you prefer.

Also if anyone is looking to sell theirs give me a shout.

I'm in Kent/S.London are there any owners willing to let me have a gander at their Sag?

Thanks in advance

Saul

You can put CCC's on the Sag. I did but took them off as they weren't as loud as I expected. Racing Green are letting me test some Blue Flame cans this weekend so I can let you know how I get on.

My Sag is not de-catted but I have been told it is possible to get through the MOT when it is de-catted.

Not looking to sell my Sag, sorry.

[KillerJim]

Hoolio said:

saulk said:

After selling my Tuscan in June it's now time to fill that gap. I really miss my TVR. I'm starting to look for a Sagaris and have a couple of questions.

I had the Carbon Cans on the Tuscan, what exhaust options are there for the Sag and if de-catted can you get it through an MOT without replacing the cats, pm me if you prefer.

Also if anyone is looking to sell theirs give me a shout.

I'm in Kent/S.London are there any owners willing to let me have a gander at their Sag?

Thanks in advance

Saul

My Sag is not de-catted but I have been told it is possible to get through the MOT when it is de-catted.

Can I ask why the Sagaris would not get through MOT without its cat's?

Its probably ignorance on my part but I assume the exhaust gasses are tested against the recorded "approved" values and a de-cat (on most car's) would result in a increase in bad gases and a fail..

However the Sagaris (and all TVR's) are unclassified (i.e. no co2 figures) do how can it be failed?

Or are they looking at something else when they fail it?

J

[Hoolio]

KillerJim said:

Hoolio said:

saulk said:

After selling my Tuscan in June it's now time to fill that gap. I really miss my TVR. I'm starting to look for a Sagaris and have a couple of questions.

I had the Carbon Cans on the Tuscan, what exhaust options are there for the Sag and if de-catted can you get it through an MOT without replacing the cats, pm me if you prefer.

Also if anyone is looking to sell theirs give me a shout.

I'm in Kent/S.London are there any owners willing to let me have a gander at their Sag?

Thanks in advance

Saul

My Sag is not de-catted but I have been told it is possible to get through the MOT when it is de-catted.

Can I ask why the Sagaris would not get through MOT without its cat's?

Its probably ignorance on my part but I assume the exhaust gasses are tested against the recorded "approved" values and a de-cat (on most car's) would result in a increase in bad gases and a fail..

However the Sagaris (and all TVR's) are unclassified (i.e. no co2 figures) do how can it be failed?

Or are they looking at something else when they fail it?

J

No idea James, sorry.

[bogie]

my understanding is that *any* car built after a certain age has to have a cat fitted and meet the tests for hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide as well as CO2. The levels are not set per car as such, just a pre-set amount by the MOT people who make the rules and the amounts are so low, that its not possible (today) for a car without a cat to meet the requirements of the test

so any car without a cat *should* fail, regardless, the only get out clause you have if its an old car, and never needed to have a cat from new

[saulk]

Thanks for all the replies guys.

Claire that would be good if I could see the Sag.

Saul

[bobd]

bogie said:

my understanding is that *any* car built after a certain age has to have a cat fitted and meet the tests for hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide as well as CO2. The levels are not set per car as such, just a pre-set amount by the MOT people who make the rules and the amounts are so low, that its not possible (today) for a car without a cat to meet the requirements of the test

so any car without a cat *should* fail, regardless, the only get out clause you have if its an old car, and never needed to have a cat from new

It is my understanding that it is a CO:CO2 Ratio that it is tested against and that depending upon the amount of CO emitted in comparison to CO2 determines a pass or fail. I think the benchmark is a ratio no worse than 0.02
Eg CO2 reading 4%, CO reading 800 ppm would equate to 800 divided by 8 x 10000 = ratio 0.02 which would be just a pass - Im sure the MOT men will be in shortly to correct me if I am wrong

[willtvr]

bobd said:

bogie said:

my understanding is that *any* car built after a certain age has to have a cat fitted and meet the tests for hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide as well as CO2. The levels are not set per car as such, just a pre-set amount by the MOT people who make the rules and the amounts are so low, that its not possible (today) for a car without a cat to meet the requirements of the test

so any car without a cat *should* fail, regardless, the only get out clause you have if its an old car, and never needed to have a cat from new

It is my understanding that it is a CO:CO2 Ratio that it is tested against and that depending upon the amount of CO emitted in comparison to CO2 determines a pass or fail. I think the benchmark is a ratio no worse than 0.02
Eg CO2 reading 4%, CO reading 800 ppm would equate to 800 divided by 8 x 10000 = ratio 0.02 which would be just a pass - Im sure the MOT men will be in shortly to correct me if I am wrong

Unless its changed since I was an examiner its the level of CO and HC ppm as per limit set out by DOT. No requirement to have cats fitted but limits imposed for cars since 9/92 makes it almost impossible to comply without.