M3 V Skyine GT-R

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Original Poster:

55 posts

253 months

Monday 13th October 2003
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Hi everyone...

I'm thinking of buying a Skyline R34 v-spec.
Just wondering how the performance (in standard spec) would compare to a new M3 coupe.
Have any of you skyline owners had any races with M3's?
(this is important to me as 3 of my freinds have m3's!!)

ro_butler

795 posts

272 months

Monday 13th October 2003
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good luck with finding an unmodified skyline

As gaz says, for small(ish) fee you can make it very fast. It doesn't really affect reliability either.

I guess this is why there are so few standard GTRs around.

Rob.

shadowninja

76,399 posts

283 months

Monday 13th October 2003
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with it being so easy, it'd be rude not to tune up a skyline if you owned one...

GCerbera

5,161 posts

252 months

Monday 13th October 2003
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Have you got yours back yet Rob?

600

Original Poster:

55 posts

253 months

Monday 13th October 2003
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I'm sure i will be tuning it...i just wanted some idea of what the difference would be. I drive a TVR Cerbera 4.5 at the moment, so in order for it to be as fast as this in a straight line, it would have to be 450-500bhp. How easy is it to achieve 500bhp? How much would it cost? Also, i've heard highly tuned skylines are not the most reliable things....could i achieve 500bhp, without affecting reliability & day to day driveability??

600

Original Poster:

55 posts

253 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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cheers Gazboy....just what i was looking for!

much appreciated..

BarryG

91 posts

270 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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600: You'll be needing more than 500bhp in a Skyline to keep up with your Cerbie. From what I remember the Cerbie has 350bhp/ton (420 bhp, 1200kg); to get that bhp/ton in the 1560kg Skyline you'll need 546bhp.

However, the Cerbera's more slippery shape will give it an advantage at high speeds, so the Skyline will need even more power to overcome it. Your logon name says it all: "600" is how much power you'll need.

That amount of power is quite easily acheivable as long as you have a bottomless wallet - budget around £20k. My opinion: stick with the Cerbie.

600

Original Poster:

55 posts

253 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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yeah..i do love the cerbie...i've just had enough of the reliability issues....i've had the car for 3 months and it's been on the road for nearly 2 months and i'm already £3000 worse-off!. To top it all....some woman crashed into me last week while trying to control her kids in the back. It's all going on her insurance but i've just heard that is likely to be off the road for 8 WEEKS!!!...so i'm running about in my little 1.2 Corsa curtesy car!...it's doing my head in and i'm starting to think the car is cursed!

In my opinion the Cerbie wins hands down on looks...and in a straight line there is very little out there that can compare....BUT throw a little rain into the situation and i find myself getting beaten by impreza's etc. Basically...i want a car which is fast in all conditions, handles well and starts everyday!

shadowninja

76,399 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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Hates_

778 posts

254 months

Wednesday 15th October 2003
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I'd choose a GT-R over an M3 any day, even over a CSL

The fact that your buying a machine thats bloody fast but has nowhere near reached its potential is enough for me. Seeing 500+ BHp is easy and not to mention some of the best car wizardy ever. Hell you can even get a switch that makes it 100% RWD!!!

Not to mention the wonderful pssshhhhh of the dumpvalve and ULTIMATE uniqueness. How many M3s do you see on the streets these days? Way tooo many. The R34 doesn't stand out like a sore thumb but is ultimate to those who know anything about cars...

shadowninja

76,399 posts

283 months

Wednesday 15th October 2003
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Hates_ said:
pssshhhhh of the dumpvalve


ok you've convinced me. i'd buy an m3

Hates_

778 posts

254 months

Wednesday 15th October 2003
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shadowninja said:
ok you've convinced me. i'd buy an m3
LOL

BNR34

6 posts

247 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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600

Hi,

New to the forum and a owner of a R34 GTR. Also have raced and beat a M3 (latest model). I did have a big advantage though as I have 600+bhp. With a stock R34 GTR I'd say that the M3 will have the upper hand as after buying my car new and running in the engine it didn't feel fast - well, not fast enough to take on a M3 anyway.

But spend a grand or two for basic mods will see the power to 400+hp.

Hates_

778 posts

254 months

Saturday 18th October 2003
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BNR34 said:
600

Hi,

New to the forum and a owner of a R34 GTR. Also have raced and beat a M3 (latest model). I did have a big advantage though as I have 600+bhp. With a stock R34 GTR I'd say that the M3 will have the upper hand as after buying my car new and running in the engine it didn't feel fast - well, not fast enough to take on a M3 anyway.

But spend a grand or two for basic mods will see the power to 400+hp.
Holy Moly, R34 in the states! You must get so much attention as they are meant to be really rare over there?

BNR34

6 posts

247 months

Sunday 19th October 2003
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States? What made you think that?
I'm in UK!

The M3 was the E46 with 343hp.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Sunday 19th October 2003
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BNR34 said:
States? What made you think that?


At a guess it would be the fact that you have "United States" in your profile...

BNR34

6 posts

247 months

Sunday 19th October 2003
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Now corrected thanks! Even upload a pic of my car as well.....

Neil_H

15,323 posts

252 months

Tuesday 28th October 2003
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BNR34 said:
I did have a big advantage though as I have 600+bhp.


Niiiiice! :drool: (we really need a drool smiley)

I'm dying to know how much it costs to get 600bhp....

Mr E

21,634 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th October 2003
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600bhp? Not much.

600bhp for more than 1 dyno run, quite a bit more.....



Nice, *nice* car.

Can I have a go please mister?

MOD500

2,686 posts

251 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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This thread makes interesting reading - I am considering a Skyline after my tivver as the niggles are getting to me abit. Have always liked the look of the skyline (with NISMO split rims ). Which tuning firms are considered best? From reading mags HKS seem to be the leaders?

Thanks

MOD.

Edited to say: Can anyone direct me to any decent Skyline web pages akin to Piston Heads please?

>> Edited by MOD500 on Wednesday 29th October 08:41