Selling a business
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Nevin

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2,999 posts

292 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Anyone got any reccomendations for good websites/organisations to use for selling a business?

Alternatively, anyone want to buy a business?

groomi

9,331 posts

274 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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I think Screbbe64 deals in selling businesses.

Nevin

Original Poster:

2,999 posts

292 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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groomi said:
I think Screbbe64 deals in selling businesses.
Yep, I'm pretty sure he does too. Will wait for him to toddle along

Stitch

933 posts

248 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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you need to be careful

Don't pay big up front fees

Don't be seduced by people giving you huge valuations

Make sure that you are going to get a full service (not only marketing the business but also help with preparing information, advice on the offers received, tax advice - basically someone who will hold your hand throughout.

I have lost count of the times I have dealt with a seller using a "broker" who charges a big up front fee and basically puts together a mail shot and a two page summary and then sits back and waits for his success fee

My advice - go on to the website of the institute of chartered accountants and use their directory to find a couple of local firms with corporate finance departments and have a chat with them

FUBAR

17,065 posts

269 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Nevin said:
groomi said:
I think Screbbe64 deals in selling businesses.
Yep, I'm pretty sure he does too. Will wait for him to toddle along
Steve is in Bejiing, but Ive sent him a text to say he is wanted smile

groomi

9,331 posts

274 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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FUBAR said:
Nevin said:
groomi said:
I think Screbbe64 deals in selling businesses.
Yep, I'm pretty sure he does too. Will wait for him to toddle along
Steve is in Bejiing, but Ive sent him a text to say he is wanted smile
Beijing? Trying to sell 'The Big Three' to the Chinese is he? wink

Vixpy1

42,699 posts

295 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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groomi said:
FUBAR said:
Nevin said:
groomi said:
I think Screbbe64 deals in selling businesses.
Yep, I'm pretty sure he does too. Will wait for him to toddle along
Steve is in Bejiing, but Ive sent him a text to say he is wanted smile
Beijing? Trying to sell 'The Big Three' to the Chinese is he? wink
Its a bit of a wonky deal, Snap and Crackle want to sell, Pop wants to hold.

therealpigdog

2,592 posts

228 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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broker/corporate financiers or good accountants.

if you can identify 10 people who might buy your business then a broker might be unnecessary.

depends on how much you want to get involved in the negotiations. difficult to say which way is best because some people are more than happy to pay a broker rather than get stuck in, whereas some pay for a broker and still end up doing all the work because they can't let go.

what sort of business is it?

V8mate

45,899 posts

220 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Business Transfer Agents is the googleable term

Cooky

4,955 posts

268 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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An advert in Daltons Weekly cost next to nothing, and is a good way to test the water...see who out there. wink

Stitch

933 posts

248 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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therealpigdog said:
broker/corporate financiers or good accountants.

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A corporate financier is not a broker.

A corporate financier/accountant who knows what he is doing will do the lot for you (put together a prospecting list, make the approaches,produce a decent information memorandum,set up and run a tight auction process, sift the offers and assess them, manage any due diligence process, liase with all sides and make sure that the deal is as tax efficient for you as possible) and generally act as a buffer between seller and buyer.

In my experience, most brokers will produce a prospecting list and make the approaches and little else. They won't/can't offer much else.


Massive generalisation - but brokers just don't tend to offer the full service. No problem with that - horses for courses but their fees don't bear out the service that they provide.

In the end, it really depends on the value of the business. Big 4 accountancy firms have big fees and it needs to be a sizeable business to justify their fees.

Local and regional firms will be more reasonable on fees.


The Moose

23,703 posts

240 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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so, what are you selling?!?!

Leondrums

184 posts

243 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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I also have a company for sale (Loans and Mortgages) up with a broker who has been absolutely useless. The business is for sale at 225k (they valued at 350k, which i thought was unrealistic).

The 2 prospects I have had have been emailed to me to deal with directly and after an initial conversation I have asked the broker to follow up which they will not do. 'You are the best person to sell yor business' - why would I be paying them 25k just to list the business on businessforsale.com which I could do for a few hundred pounds.

I made sure that I did'nt pay any up front fees, but I dont feel they are proactive enough. In my opinion they should be calling similar business' and offering my business for sale....

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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Its a bit of a wonky deal, Snap and Crackle want to sell, Pop wants to hold.
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Very, very good hehe

sb-1

3,381 posts

294 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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The Moose said:
so, what are you selling?!?!
Would help to know!

srebbe64

13,021 posts

268 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Nihao - and greetings from Beijing (where I'm pulling off a real peach of a deal!)

I got your text Nick, hence this post.

To the OP, firstly what sector are you - certain sectors are 'hot to trot' and others aren't. Hot sectors include: bio-tech, power generation, environmental, business-to-business, Internet related, and a few others. Secondly, we're currently only interested in companies/deals above a certain size. However, in answer to the original question I'd be very happy to meet for a couple of hours to give you some free cpnsultancy as a 'PH goodwill gesture' (as long as I don't have to travel too far!)

Leondrums

184 posts

243 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Sorry to hijack,

If anyone is interested in a Loan and Mortgage company, mainly dealing with internet enquiries all generated business to business please let me know.

fireflydesign@tiscali.co.uk

FUBAR

17,065 posts

269 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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srebbe64 said:
I'd be very happy to meet for a couple of hours to give you some free cpnsultancy as a 'PH goodwill gesture'
yikes Crickey Steve, you're either in the Christmas spirit....




....or drinking too much of it hehe

wattsm666

742 posts

296 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Nevin said:
Anyone got any reccomendations for good websites/organisations to use for selling a business?

Alternatively, anyone want to buy a business?
YHM

transactor

152 posts

229 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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daltonsbusiness.com or businessesforsale.com