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scratch pervert

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498 posts

252 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Hi guys & girls,

I'm new to this program. Is there any way I can take a picture of clothing items I want to sell on ebay and get rid of the background? ie give the item a white background

SamHH

5,078 posts

246 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Use the magic wand to select the area you want to keep, varying the tolerance to get the correct selection, then either invert selection and fill in with white, or copy and paste into a white background. However, I imagine that just giving it a white background will look quite naff, and if I were considering buying the item it would probably be a bit off putting, like maybe you'd nicked the photo from somewhere else. Can you not photograph it with a suitable background in the first place?

scratch pervert

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498 posts

252 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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SamHH said:
Can you not photograph it with a suitable background in the first place?
I'm going to be selling kids clothing and at the moment I'm struggling to find a background that will be suitable, which is why I was going to opt for white.

Ledaig

1,808 posts

292 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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An option that you could try - but which would be dependent on your camera and available settings, would be to try using a plain white sheet as a background.

If you suspend the sheet on a wall as cleanly as possible (i.e. to remove as many creases as you can), then hang the article on support a short distance in front of the sheet. If you set the camera to use flash, and then also set spot metering so that you meter only for the garment, the flash and exposure should be set to expose the garment correctly, but overexpose the white sheet. If this is done successfully, the white sheet should appear as only a plain white background. The darker the item, the more successful this will be. You can also adjust the exposure compensation to increase the above effect. Depending on what you use, you may then need to clone out the garment support.

Make sure you are level and 'directly on' to the garment to eliminate visable shadow from the flash.

smile


Edited by Ledaig on Saturday 6th December 10:12

WTD

818 posts

263 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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i run an online kids clothes store as a sideline, and unfortunately even using a professional photographer I had to cut them out using photoshop (zoom in 100% on the raw image, and literally click around the entire item with the lassoo tool) Very time consuming but well worth it as it gives a really good finish and looks great integrated into the website.

Ledaig

1,808 posts

292 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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WTD said:
i run an online kids clothes store as a sideline, and unfortunately even using a professional photographer I had to cut them out using photoshop (zoom in 100% on the raw image, and literally click around the entire item with the lassoo tool) Very time consuming but well worth it as it gives a really good finish and looks great integrated into the website.
I'm surprised that a professional couldn't give you satisfactory results. With the equipment they have at their disposal, they should have been able to use the above technique, combined with studio or off camera flash lighting aimed directly at only the background to blow it completely. This should have given the results you wanted.

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

278 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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Ledaig said:
WTD said:
i run an online kids clothes store as a sideline, and unfortunately even using a professional photographer I had to cut them out using photoshop (zoom in 100% on the raw image, and literally click around the entire item with the lassoo tool) Very time consuming but well worth it as it gives a really good finish and looks great integrated into the website.
I'm surprised that a professional couldn't give you satisfactory results. With the equipment they have at their disposal, they should have been able to use the above technique, combined with studio or off camera flash lighting aimed directly at only the background to blow it completely. This should have given the results you wanted.
I agree, it's trivial to shoot the item at f8 and using lights blow the background to f11 rendering it pure 255 white in the image. Next time give us a shout... wink

Edited by Bee_Jay on Saturday 6th December 12:53

WTD

818 posts

263 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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Sure, any time you're passing through tokyo gimme a call wink

even with all the gizmos rig, and flashes, still left the background blue/greyish that needed removing for the pure white of the site background...

before


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_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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Try using the levels tool or the shadows/highlights tool to blow out the white, much faster than cutting around it. It slightly changes the colours but only a tiny bit.

20 seconds work in paint.net


scratch pervert

Original Poster:

498 posts

252 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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_dobbo_ said:
Try using the levels tool or the shadows/highlights tool to blow out the white, much faster than cutting around it. It slightly changes the colours but only a tiny bit.

20 seconds work in paint.net

Thanks Dobbo.

Where do I find the 'levels' tool or the 'shadows/highlights' tool in paint.net?

paul911

2,771 posts

263 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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Levels is under the adjustments tab (Ctrl+L) - version 3.36

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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I'll confess I didn't use the shadows/highlights tool when I did it, just levels and a slight brightness/contrast tweak.

That should cover most eventualities!

scratch pervert

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498 posts

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Thursday 18th December 2008
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WTD, Do you just use a white sheet to place the item on as your result is exactly what I'm looking for?

WTD

818 posts

263 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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scratch pervert said:
WTD, Do you just use a white sheet to place the item on as your result is exactly what I'm looking for?
No it was a white board that the guy photographed on, but there was post processing required to go round the entire background and 'cut' out the image and set the background to white.

After a few images, it got pretty quick, around 30secs - 1 min an item, but when you're doing 250 its not much fun! haha

scratch pervert

Original Poster:

498 posts

252 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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WTD said:
scratch pervert said:
WTD, Do you just use a white sheet to place the item on as your result is exactly what I'm looking for?
No it was a white board that the guy photographed on, but there was post processing required to go round the entire background and 'cut' out the image and set the background to white.

After a few images, it got pretty quick, around 30secs - 1 min an item, but when you're doing 250 its not much fun! haha
Thanks.

I think I'm going to buy a roll of seamless background paper and see what results I can achieve by playing with the levels on paint.net