Hypothetical scenario
Discussion
I have a good thread to start here, i think, there is a question I need to ask from one of the BiB before I start it.
**hypothetical scenario**
Question :
An15, 18 year old stealing (for example) a hard drive from pc world caught red handed with enough evidence by police.
Lets say for arguemtns sake that the item is worth £60
What is the normal prosecution law for this? (i.e what should happen optimally should it go to court)
Forget cautions or clip round the ears, what would the ruling be?
Cheers
Gh0st
**hypothetical scenario**
Question :
An15, 18 year old stealing (for example) a hard drive from pc world caught red handed with enough evidence by police.
Lets say for arguemtns sake that the item is worth £60
What is the normal prosecution law for this? (i.e what should happen optimally should it go to court)
Forget cautions or clip round the ears, what would the ruling be?
Cheers
Gh0st
1. Listen to shop staff, to evidence. If good evidence
2. Arrest thief
3. Convey to Police station - book into custody, pace rights given to prisoner.
4. wait 2 hours for his nominated brief to turn up.
5. Interview thief (sorry, alleged thief....)
6. Charge thief to court (under theft act)
7. Theif goes to court....Bleats to the beak....
8. Given 2 hours community service or conditional discharge.
No, maybe a little off the truth, generally it will be a small fine, and a guilty on their pnc record. It all depends on the case really.
That is the 'what if scenario' if charged to court.
However, if the scrote is of previous good character, ie no previous, then he may be eligible for a police caution which negates a court appearance and is a 'second chance' Which I must say is usually ignored and they go away chuckling.....
Hope that helps, however why do I feel a
"Useless coppers didnt arrest him....." Coming on!!
Forgive me if I am being a bit cynical..
Mike
>> Edited by silverback mike on Monday 13th October 19:02
2. Arrest thief
3. Convey to Police station - book into custody, pace rights given to prisoner.
4. wait 2 hours for his nominated brief to turn up.
5. Interview thief (sorry, alleged thief....)
6. Charge thief to court (under theft act)
7. Theif goes to court....Bleats to the beak....
8. Given 2 hours community service or conditional discharge.
No, maybe a little off the truth, generally it will be a small fine, and a guilty on their pnc record. It all depends on the case really.
That is the 'what if scenario' if charged to court.
However, if the scrote is of previous good character, ie no previous, then he may be eligible for a police caution which negates a court appearance and is a 'second chance' Which I must say is usually ignored and they go away chuckling.....
Hope that helps, however why do I feel a
"Useless coppers didnt arrest him....." Coming on!!
Forgive me if I am being a bit cynical..
Mike
>> Edited by silverback mike on Monday 13th October 19:02
No no, nothing like that!!
I am just trying to get some information to draw a comparison to other laws and how they are prosecuted vs. speeding laws.
It seems that you get caught doing some minor minor shoplifting you get a clip round the ear, yet you get caught doing 33 in a 30 and you get a fine and a step toward losing your honest job.
Before I put the thread togeather I (for once!) am getting my facts togeather!
Cheers mr silverback
Gh0st
I am just trying to get some information to draw a comparison to other laws and how they are prosecuted vs. speeding laws.
It seems that you get caught doing some minor minor shoplifting you get a clip round the ear, yet you get caught doing 33 in a 30 and you get a fine and a step toward losing your honest job.
Before I put the thread togeather I (for once!) am getting my facts togeather!
Cheers mr silverback
Gh0st
No problem Ghost,
It really all depends on the magistrate, well, the clerk really, he/she is the one with the legal knowledge, the magistrates generally agree with the "advice" given by the clerk.
There are some courts that are harsher than others. For instance in my area Bristol Magistrates seems a little more lenient than North Avon which is affectionately known as a hanging court!!
Mike.
It really all depends on the magistrate, well, the clerk really, he/she is the one with the legal knowledge, the magistrates generally agree with the "advice" given by the clerk.
There are some courts that are harsher than others. For instance in my area Bristol Magistrates seems a little more lenient than North Avon which is affectionately known as a hanging court!!
Mike.
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