anti competition clauses
anti competition clauses
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feeler

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3 posts

215 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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G'Day all. I am selling my share in a software company and am coming up against a tight anti competition clause. EG. I will not be allowed to work (Produce code etc) in the specific software industry for a number of years. Is this enforceable? Allowable?

Altrezia

8,742 posts

242 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I'm not sure it's enforcable, surely its a human right to work?

The Moose

23,703 posts

240 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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It is (to me anyway!!) a reasonable clause. If you dont like it, ask for more money for that, or dont take the offer. In M&A's this is a rather common clause. How many years are they talking about?

Cheers

The Moose

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Clauses that are too general and far reaching are not enforceable.

For instance, if the clause said you couldnt product financial software in Burnley for 3 months then that would hold water.

If it said you cant produce software anywhere in Europe until the day you die that wouldnt.

Anything expecting to dictate terms over a number of years I would suggest is on shaky ground.

feeler

Original Poster:

3 posts

215 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Hello and thanks for the replies. The clause as it currently stands says that I can't be involved in software production in the subject concerned anywhere in the world for a period of 2 years.

The Moose

23,703 posts

240 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I would say that was reasonable and probably enforceable to some extent.

We have heard similar things such as not allowing to work for a company in a similar field for a similar number of years.

Cheers

The Moose

mas99

4,935 posts

215 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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How tight is the definition of the subject area?

As I understand it something like 12 months would be the limit of an anti-competition clause.

Actually of course they can put whatever they like in the contract - what matters is how a court would view it in the event that you breach the condition and they take action against you.

therealpigdog

2,592 posts

228 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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need to differentiate between two types of restrictive covenant clauses:

in employment contracts - these are viewed quite narrowly as the former employee must be entitles to work question - does the rstriction stop you carrying on your trade? if so, then probably unenforceable.

in business sale contracts - whilst the courts have been known to strike out clauses that are extremely wide, they do take into account that the covenantor has sold his business and therefore gained a benefit for entering into the covenant. The clause is there as protection for the goodwill of the company he sold and will be enforceable only to the extent that it does that. a clause preventing someone from selling widgets in France, when the company sold only sells widgets in England would probably be unenforceable. However, global restrictions on software developers and the like where location is irrelevant tend to be enforced more.

Try to beat them down a bit, but you will need to accept that they don't want to pay for a business and have you set up in competition the next day - it's a legitimate and reasonable ask.

wattsm666

742 posts

296 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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therealpigdog said:
need to differentiate between two types of restrictive covenant clauses:

in employment contracts - these are viewed quite narrowly as the former employee must be entitles to work question - does the rstriction stop you carrying on your trade? if so, then probably unenforceable.

in business sale contracts - whilst the courts have been known to strike out clauses that are extremely wide, they do take into account that the covenantor has sold his business and therefore gained a benefit for entering into the covenant. The clause is there as protection for the goodwill of the company he sold and will be enforceable only to the extent that it does that. a clause preventing someone from selling widgets in France, when the company sold only sells widgets in England would probably be unenforceable. However, global restrictions on software developers and the like where location is irrelevant tend to be enforced more.

Try to beat them down a bit, but you will need to accept that they don't want to pay for a business and have you set up in competition the next day - it's a legitimate and reasonable ask.
The above hits the nail on the head, all relates to the purchaser preserving the goodwill they have just bought. If you have something specific you want to do speak to the purchaser and get it carved out.

feeler

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3 posts

215 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Thanks people. This has all been very helpful.

The clause would I think hinder my normal means of employment if for example I was offered work in a similar area of software development but unable to take it. It is also striving to restrict me world-wide which I do think is a bit strong.