Pearl Harbor Day
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Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

260 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Yesterday was the day we remember being snuck up upon. smile Seriously, there is an estimated 6,000 veterans alive from that attack. This may also include Japanese. Point being thas was 1941; the majority of living WWII vets are likely from 1944-45. Anyway, it is sad as those fine folks are leaving us daily. I suppose we are priviledged to have lived during the lives of many of the "greatest generation".

As the UK was fighting WWII far earlier, how many pre-1941 vets do you have living in your estimates? Any BOB flyers still about?

cardigankid

8,879 posts

241 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Well, if you can come back from Pearl Harbour you can come back from the present mess.

B.J.W

5,875 posts

244 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Jimbeaux said:
As the UK was fighting WWII far earlier, how many pre-1941 vets do you have living in your estimates? Any BOB flyers still about?
Only two years earlier, J.

Though thanks for eventually pitching up.

TimJMS

2,584 posts

280 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Jimbeaux said:
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As the UK was fighting WWII far earlier, how many pre-1941 vets do you have living in your estimates?
I think Christopher Timothy is still alive wink

B.J.W

5,875 posts

244 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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On another note, as someone who has an interest in naval history (particularly Dreadnought era onwards), Pearl Harbour is always somewhere that I have wanted to visit. Seeing the memorials must be a very moving experience.

BigBen

12,155 posts

259 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I thought this was a topic about the weather today, which is undeniably a bit pearl harbour

Steamer

14,183 posts

242 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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BigBen said:
I thought this was a topic about the weather today, which is undeniably a bit pearl harbour
Certainly was a nasty nip in the air round here too!

boxedin

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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There are still quite a few 1939/40 veterans around.

J-Skid

1,099 posts

287 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Jimbeaux said:
Yesterday was the day we remember being snuck up upon. smile Seriously, there is an estimated 6,000 veterans alive from that attack. This may also include Japanese. Point being thas was 1941; the majority of living WWII vets are likely from 1944-45. Anyway, it is sad as those fine folks are leaving us daily. I suppose we are priviledged to have lived during the lives of many of the "greatest generation".

As the UK was fighting WWII far earlier, how many pre-1941 vets do you have living in your estimates? Any BOB flyers still about?
yes One lives down the road from me. Some truly horiffic stories of what happened. He told me about one chap who go burned alive but managed to get the plan down, as he couldn't get the canopy open cry

Edited by J-Skid on Monday 8th December 12:45

mel

10,168 posts

304 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I think we've still got one or two left from 1914-18 haven't we?

youngsyr

14,742 posts

221 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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mel said:
I think we've still got one or two left from 1914-18 haven't we?
I think there are a handful - around 6? Although I think one of those finished training just as the war ended and never saw action.

It amazes me that people can live that long though, they're knocking on 110 years old, IIRC.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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As a merchant seaman could have been about 16-19 when the war finshed in May 1945, the very youngest WW2 vet would be 81-82 now.

"A generation, the like of which, we will never see again".

mechsympathy

58,642 posts

284 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Jimbeaux said:
Any BOB flyers still about?
Geoffrey Wellum who wrote At First Light about his experiences in the BoB is still about.

jimothy

5,151 posts

266 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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TimJMS said:
Jimbeaux said:
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As the UK was fighting WWII far earlier, how many pre-1941 vets do you have living in your estimates?
I think Christopher Timothy is still alive wink
BaDom Tish!

Finlandia

7,818 posts

260 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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My father is a veteran of 1939-1945. He signed up at 15, which was against the rules, and was on the Finnish/Russian, Finnish/German front throughout the war.

They don't make guys like that anymore.

a boardman

1,316 posts

229 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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B.J.W said:
On another note, as someone who has an interest in naval history (particularly Dreadnought era onwards), Pearl Harbour is always somewhere that I have wanted to visit. Seeing the memorials must be a very moving experience.
Having been to Hawaii and around Pearl Harbout, National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific and USS missouri it is a moving experience and a very good tour.

rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Finlandia said:
They don't make guys like that anymore.
With all due respect to your dad, guys and girls like him still exist, but thanks to the actions of people like your dad far less of them need to show it, at the present time.

Come the hour, come the man.

One day the call will go out again and it will be answered.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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rude-boy said:
Finlandia said:
They don't make guys like that anymore.
With all due respect to your dad, guys and girls like him still exist, but thanks to the actions of people like your dad far less of them need to show it, at the present time.

Come the hour, come the man.

One day the call will go out again and it will be answered.
The people are willing, but the gubbermint is weak.

As the father of a son of military age, I am not so sure I would let him fight for this lot, or any government. For his kith and kin, yes, for politicians, never.

mel

10,168 posts

304 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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If he's of "military age" I'm not sure that as a dad you'd really have any say in the matter! I understand your sentiments but both me and my brother served in the forces (my brother still is) my occupation although hazardous was somewhat passive (I specilised in underwater engineering as a Navy Diver) my brother however joined the army and has very much spent his entire career "front line". I joined at 17 and my brother at 21 but my father was the most "anti" you could ever have imagined, at the time Northern Ireland was very much an area to avoid and soldiers were dieing daily but he tried everything you could imagine to put both of us odd the idea, we had no real military "history" within the family as our dad had missed national service while he was apprenticed, and of our grandparents one was a fireman and the other a "spiv" type wheeler dealer blackmarket millionaire (to this day I don't know how he avoided service) but you get the gist'. Anyway as others have said I still believe that if push came to shove there are still plenty of young men out there willing to risk their lives for action & adventure and dads opinions don't really count for that much if it's what you want to do.

Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

260 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Finlandia said:
My father is a veteran of 1939-1945. He signed up at 15, which was against the rules, and was on the Finnish/Russian, Finnish/German front throughout the war.

They don't make guys like that anymore.
No, they do not; you should be very proud of him. smile