Buying a domain name - Sedo
Discussion
Hello everybody,
Just a quickie really;
I am looking at buying a domain name which appears to be being sold by Sedo.co.uk on behalf of someone.
I have now nearly registered with them so that I can put forward an offer..
Just wanted to know whether anyone has used this site before, or any similar site and also what the going rate for a fairly standard website address is?
Thanks in advance fellow people of t'internet land..
Just a quickie really;
I am looking at buying a domain name which appears to be being sold by Sedo.co.uk on behalf of someone.
I have now nearly registered with them so that I can put forward an offer..
Just wanted to know whether anyone has used this site before, or any similar site and also what the going rate for a fairly standard website address is?
Thanks in advance fellow people of t'internet land..
The price is down to how much you think it's worth and how much the other guy is willing to let it go for. If it's something short like www.hello.com, expect it to be more than www.thisisthedomainyouwant123.co.uk.
Good luck, I've used them once and will never use them again. Like you, my 1st offer was refused but the 2nd offer was accepted. That's all well and good, actually getting them to assign the domain to me and subsequent transfer to another host took 3 months. A more disorganised shower I have never come across. It was excuse after excuse. Must stop, I can feel my blood pressure rising again!
What domain? pm me if you don't want to post here, I usually find most domains (in the lower end budget range) from sedo for sale alot cheaper else where. For example I advertise domains on sedo for £200 but in the big domains forums they go up for £50 as I know I will get a sale..
Edited by HunchBack on Tuesday 9th December 18:13
Have you checked www.who.is to see when it was registered? If it was very recently and the seller is getting rid of it, it's probably worth little more than the registration fees.
I use Sedo to park most of my domains but a lot of domainers advertise on sites like www.acorndomains.co.uk ....so it's worth trying a few domain forums to see if you can make a direct offer. If nothing else, you'll get a feel for the market value of TLD's.
I use Sedo to park most of my domains but a lot of domainers advertise on sites like www.acorndomains.co.uk ....so it's worth trying a few domain forums to see if you can make a direct offer. If nothing else, you'll get a feel for the market value of TLD's.
claypigeon60 said:
Yup as far as I'm concerned they're hostage takers ... they wait for domains to lapse, then buy them up before the original owners notice, then wait for the original owners to want it back. Happened to a school I deal with.
"Legal" maybe, but immoral.
what a crock of crap."Legal" maybe, but immoral.
Domains that lapse usually have several renewal notices then a period of suspension (3 months in .uk) where the name is still registered for the owner but does not work. You are telling me that a domain that doesnt work at all (no email, web - nowt) for three months is really valued by the owner?!
90% of domainers trade in generic or descriptive domains rather than expired traffic ones anyway.
As for Sedo - slow as a sloth and not the cheapest way to buy a name, drop me a PM for further info.
MrMoonyMan said:
Hi there guys - thanks for the info, just looked it up on whois and the dates bit interested me...
Relevant dates:
Registered on: 29-Apr-2001
Renewal date: 29-Apr-2009
Last updated: 24-Apr-2008
Does that mean it is not currently registered?
I gather it is (or at least was) a website to be so old?Relevant dates:
Registered on: 29-Apr-2001
Renewal date: 29-Apr-2009
Last updated: 24-Apr-2008
Does that mean it is not currently registered?
Renewal date is when the current owner or buyer will need to extend registration to prevent it dropping.
I mentioned checking whois because some people register the worst possible domains for a few quid and then try to sell them the next day for £100's. This one doesn't fall into that catagory so it should be worth something.
Is it hyphenated?
If it's a dot com, have you checked if the dot co.uk is available. If you are using it to sell in the uk, as good as a dot com is, uk buyers will assume that it's worldwide.
Hi there, no it is not hyphernated and it is a .co.uk address.
It is just a site that describes what I need it to! May be able to find an alternative but hope not to need to.
Nice plate btw - I have a similar number plate that relates to my user name but all my cars are too old at the moment..
It is just a site that describes what I need it to! May be able to find an alternative but hope not to need to.
Nice plate btw - I have a similar number plate that relates to my user name but all my cars are too old at the moment..
MrMoonyMan said:
Hello everybody,
Just a quickie really;
I am looking at buying a domain name which appears to be being sold by Sedo.co.uk on behalf of someone.
I have now nearly registered with them so that I can put forward an offer..
Just wanted to know whether anyone has used this site before, or any similar site and also what the going rate for a fairly standard website address is?
Thanks in advance fellow people of t'internet land..
I read a while back this is actually an illegal practice in the US and I also think it might be illegal in the UK.Just a quickie really;
I am looking at buying a domain name which appears to be being sold by Sedo.co.uk on behalf of someone.
I have now nearly registered with them so that I can put forward an offer..
Just wanted to know whether anyone has used this site before, or any similar site and also what the going rate for a fairly standard website address is?
Thanks in advance fellow people of t'internet land..
If you can rightly prove the domain name is related to your business and the name is identical or is closely related, you can put forward a good case to actually claim back at no cost the "hijacked domain". This is especially so if the domain is being advertised as "for sale" without any other use related to the name.
If you really need the domain, I would seek legal advice.
Edited by beanbag on Tuesday 16th December 13:17
beanbag said:
This is actually an illegal practice in the US and I also think it might be illegal in the UK.
If you can rightly prove the domain name is related to your business and the name is identical or is closely related, you can put forward a good case to actually claim back at no cost the "hijacked domain". This is especially so if the domain is being advertised as "for sale" without any other use related to the name.
If you really need the domain, I would seek legal advice.
On UK domainsIf you can rightly prove the domain name is related to your business and the name is identical or is closely related, you can put forward a good case to actually claim back at no cost the "hijacked domain". This is especially so if the domain is being advertised as "for sale" without any other use related to the name.
If you really need the domain, I would seek legal advice.
Yes and no.
The process costs £900 minimum to go through DRS and then court costs if its not resolved at DRS stage.
DRS can only reassign if it is an abusive registration. This is practically impossible to prove.
So what these opportunist
s do is dropcatch the URL, if they get the chance, then they offer to 'give' it to you for £500 as they know thats cheaper than DRS which will cost a minimum of £900 and is not guaranteed.As you can probably tell this was done to me and I capitulated and paid the £500. It was either that or act on the information unearthed about where she lived and worked.
Plotloss said:
beanbag said:
This is actually an illegal practice in the US and I also think it might be illegal in the UK.
If you can rightly prove the domain name is related to your business and the name is identical or is closely related, you can put forward a good case to actually claim back at no cost the "hijacked domain". This is especially so if the domain is being advertised as "for sale" without any other use related to the name.
If you really need the domain, I would seek legal advice.
On UK domainsIf you can rightly prove the domain name is related to your business and the name is identical or is closely related, you can put forward a good case to actually claim back at no cost the "hijacked domain". This is especially so if the domain is being advertised as "for sale" without any other use related to the name.
If you really need the domain, I would seek legal advice.
Yes and no.
The process costs £900 minimum to go through DRS and then court costs if its not resolved at DRS stage.
DRS can only reassign if it is an abusive registration. This is practically impossible to prove.
Plotloss said:
So what these opportunist s do is dropcatch the URL, if they get the chance, then they offer to 'give' it to you for £500 as they know thats cheaper than DRS which will cost a minimum of £900 and is not guaranteed.
As you can probably tell this was done to me and I capitulated and paid the £500. It was either that or act on the information unearthed about where she lived and worked.
Summary transfers are now £200 + VAT . Offering to sell a domain to someone who has rights in it will win a DRS its that simple.s do is dropcatch the URL, if they get the chance, then they offer to 'give' it to you for £500 as they know thats cheaper than DRS which will cost a minimum of £900 and is not guaranteed.As you can probably tell this was done to me and I capitulated and paid the £500. It was either that or act on the information unearthed about where she lived and worked.
The problem occurs when people try and overreach and claim names they dont have any rights on. This is 2008 remember, and all good names and then some are gone
robuk said:
Plotloss said:
beanbag said:
This is actually an illegal practice in the US and I also think it might be illegal in the UK.
If you can rightly prove the domain name is related to your business and the name is identical or is closely related, you can put forward a good case to actually claim back at no cost the "hijacked domain". This is especially so if the domain is being advertised as "for sale" without any other use related to the name.
If you really need the domain, I would seek legal advice.
On UK domainsIf you can rightly prove the domain name is related to your business and the name is identical or is closely related, you can put forward a good case to actually claim back at no cost the "hijacked domain". This is especially so if the domain is being advertised as "for sale" without any other use related to the name.
If you really need the domain, I would seek legal advice.
Yes and no.
The process costs £900 minimum to go through DRS and then court costs if its not resolved at DRS stage.
DRS can only reassign if it is an abusive registration. This is practically impossible to prove.
Plotloss said:
So what these opportunist s do is dropcatch the URL, if they get the chance, then they offer to 'give' it to you for £500 as they know thats cheaper than DRS which will cost a minimum of £900 and is not guaranteed.
As you can probably tell this was done to me and I capitulated and paid the £500. It was either that or act on the information unearthed about where she lived and worked.
Summary transfers are now £200 + VAT . Offering to sell a domain to someone who has rights in it will win a DRS its that simple.s do is dropcatch the URL, if they get the chance, then they offer to 'give' it to you for £500 as they know thats cheaper than DRS which will cost a minimum of £900 and is not guaranteed.As you can probably tell this was done to me and I capitulated and paid the £500. It was either that or act on the information unearthed about where she lived and worked.
The problem occurs when people try and overreach and claim names they dont have any rights on. This is 2008 remember, and all good names and then some are gone
The process looks a lot easier on paper than it does in reality but thats just someone with actual experience of the DRS talking.
Plotloss said:
Owning the Ltd Company of the same name as the disputed URL and all other URLs similar, having trading history and a recognisable brand associated to said URL didnt lead to a simple DRS resolution.
Damn right - if I form up Ebay Ltd , @ Pistonheads or even Food Ltd etc I really should not be able to lay claim to a name. If the name was dropcaught it would indicate that either:
a - you owned it and let it expire
b - someone else had the name before hand.
If the former then I fail to see how a name that is so vital can be non functional for 3 months and still fail to take heed of the several renewal warnings (ISP and nominet).
If the latter, again you have to wonder about the problems with trading under generic terms similarly building up a brand associated with a url you do not own.
Plotloss said:
The process looks a lot easier on paper than it does in reality but thats just someone with actual experience of the DRS talking.
Implying you have (with one experiance) more knowledge of the DRS than me... interesting, fancy backing that up by showing what your opinion of my lack of knowledge is based on?! :-)Edited by robuk on Tuesday 16th December 13:52
Hey 'oop you've got me worried there.. Sure that doesn't extend to me though as it hasn't been mentioned.Gassing Station | The Pie & Piston Archive | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff