Kosher or Bobbins? Experts Please?

[smiller]

Have a squint at this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Omega-Gents-Automatic-Day-Date-Rolled-Gold-Wrist-Watch_W0QQitemZ220323394061QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Jewelery_Watches_Watches_MensWatches_GL?hash=item220323394061&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1298

Very similar to an Omega piece I loved in the window of a jeweller in Knutsford a couple of weeks ago.

[Freddie von Rost]

smiller said:

Have a squint at this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Omega-Gents-Automatic-Day-Date-Rolled-Gold-Wrist-Watch_W0QQitemZ220323394061QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Jewelery_Watches_Watches_MensWatches_GL?hash=item220323394061&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1298

Very similar to an Omega piece I loved in the window of a jeweller in Knutsford a couple of weeks ago.

Linkie not workie.

[smiller]

Ah.

Maybe this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Omega-Gents-Automatic-Day-Da...

[GC8]

Certainly a genuine Omega piece. Whatever made you think that someone made counterfeit 1970s Omega watches?

You do need to ask the vendor whether the watch is original or spammed up though. Id guess that the dial has been refinished which affects the value from a collectors point of view: usually this is done in the thrid world. With it being gold filled (Im guessing that its gold filled rather than thin plate as it has a nice cal1022 action) you know that it hasnt been over polished, which is also common and to be avoided. A couple of months ago thatd have sold for £250-£375 depending on who sees it. I still think that itll be close to £290 that its current £90 price.

[owenemyr]

There are abundant "fake" vintage omega watches around,(particularly constellations) ranging from "frankensteins" consisting of an amalgam of various parts made up to emulate the original, to full blown fraudulent fakes particularly gold cased.
Its best to read up case reference numbers etc, also visit Mondeco's omega constellation forum where a wealth of information exists.
Its a personal obsereved fact that even apparently geneuine dealers have sold "fakes", knowingly or otherwise.
I am afraid that its "byer beware" or perhaps it should be "byer be aware."

[lowdrag]

Look at the seller! 27,326 sales in 5 years and 99.9% positive record? I don't see a problem at all here.

[GC8]

£175: times are hard. With regards to Constellations, Im not particularly familiar with them, I collect old Seamasters and Dynamics. The principal reason, beyond cost, is that genuine (as opposed to frankenwatch, rather than any sort of fakes) watches are so hard to find. Everythings been spammed up to some degree, no matter what people tell you: this is not the case with other models.

[owenemyr]

I have yet to see an equivalent gold filled case constellation go for anything less than £250, although I have managed purchasing in the US for £175 (when the £/$ was 2:1) and HM customs failed to obtain their share.
The later "C" case shapes may be the cheapest to buy, especially the Cal 751, a much undervalued movement.

I would be inclined to keep away from the 1000 Cal range, they had lots of issues since this was the time Omega was in trouble finnancially, keep to the 500 Cal range regarded as the pinnacle of Omega chronometer movements.
Always check the case-back details and cross relate within Omega's database for the appropriate both movement and case shape details etc.
If it does'nt feel right, it is'nt.!

[smiller]

Many thanks for the response, people.

Just got in from work (Hampshire is a long way from Shropshire), and I missed the final bidding. I'll keep looking though; that piece in the jewellers I saw was gorgeous. I just wish I could find a pic of it!

Similar to the piece on e-bay but with no day / date and a sort of brushed or satin silver finish to the face and a polished steel bezel. Lovely thing it was.