Aging parents, entitled to care from their children?
Aging parents, entitled to care from their children?
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singlecoil

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35,831 posts

275 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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From time to time one hears of elderly people who receive little or no care or attention from their children, and many people think that that is a bad thing.

I'm rather on the opinion, though that care and attention is owed to one's children, rather than to one's parents.

I think it's a good thing if people are able to look after their aged parents if and when those parents need it, but I don't think that those parents are actually entitled to expect such care.

What think ye?

schmalex

13,616 posts

235 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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no.


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Fittster

20,120 posts

242 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Yeah, stuff'em in a home. They did sod all for you.

rolleyes

Broccers

3,237 posts

282 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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schmalex said:
no.
Rather a selfish take on life unless yours abused you etc.

singlecoil

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35,831 posts

275 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Fittster said:
Yeah, stuff'em in a home. They did sod all for you.

rolleyes
Sarcasm is strong in this one.

schmalex

13,616 posts

235 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Broccers said:
schmalex said:
no.
Rather a selfish take on life unless yours abused you etc.
Thinking about it, you're right. I don't have the strongest relationship with either of my parents, but they're altogether good people.

I feel a bit silly now frown

singlecoil

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35,831 posts

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Wednesday 10th December 2008
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schmalex said:
Broccers said:
schmalex said:
no.
Rather a selfish take on life unless yours abused you etc.
Thinking about it, you're right. I don't have the strongest relationship with either of my parents, but they're altogether good people.

I feel a bit silly now frown
But shirley it's a moral question, it's got nothing to do with how well or badly the parents treated the children when they were young. I can't see that parents can build up entitlement through good treatment, nature requires them to provide that anyway, without hope of future reward.

richardxjr

7,561 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Thankfully my pretty fit young sis, 29, is totally crap at 'relationships', so she WILL look after our folks in old age.

Better that than having to sell off my inheritance the family home to pay for their care.

And no, you can't have pics, as, as keen as she would be to meet any one of you, it may lead to events which would ruin my cunning plan.



stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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singlecoil said:
From time to time one hears of elderly people who receive little or no care or attention from their children, and many people think that that is a bad thing.

I'm rather on the opinion, though that care and attention is owed to one's children, rather than to one's parents.

I think it's a good thing if people are able to look after their aged parents if and when those parents need it, but I don't think that those parents are actually entitled to expect such care.

What think ye?
its that precise attitude which will make sure any kids I have will get fk all in the will.

singlecoil

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35,831 posts

275 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
singlecoil said:
From time to time one hears of elderly people who receive little or no care or attention from their children, and many people think that that is a bad thing.

I'm rather on the opinion, though that care and attention is owed to one's children, rather than to one's parents.

I think it's a good thing if people are able to look after their aged parents if and when those parents need it, but I don't think that those parents are actually entitled to expect such care.

What think ye?
its that precise attitude which will make sure any kids I have will get fk all in the will.
Does that mean that you disapprove of my attitude, or that you agree with it and will, very sensibly in my view, leave your money to Cats Protection?

Yoshiwaan

322 posts

219 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Fittster said:
Yeah, stuff'em in a home. They did sod all for you.

rolleyes
Some homes are really good for old folk, it gives them a social side they often don't get at that age, especially if they're partner has died.

It's only a case of "stuff em in there" if you pretend they don't exist afterwards.

I agree with the OP, if they "need" the care then help them, if not then don't.

richardxjr

7,561 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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anonymous said:
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I think it's probably a good thing that I don't know that Rimmerworld.

And yes, I have thought about the repurcussions. I'll pay her something (not anywhere near as much as nursing fees though), it will be her job (live-in so rent can come off her 'wage') and she'll love it.

She'll get her fair share of the estate, though. I'm not an unfair person.


mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Parents are not entitled to expect help from their children. I would be uncomfortable receiving such help from mine.

Having said that, it was very rewarding to spend three years looking after my mother up to her death. Wouldn't have had it any other way as she was almost the perfect mother and deserved even more than I could offer.

She died two years ago...

And I'm stil knackered...silly

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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singlecoil said:
stigmundfreud said:
singlecoil said:
From time to time one hears of elderly people who receive little or no care or attention from their children, and many people think that that is a bad thing.

I'm rather on the opinion, though that care and attention is owed to one's children, rather than to one's parents.

I think it's a good thing if people are able to look after their aged parents if and when those parents need it, but I don't think that those parents are actually entitled to expect such care.

What think ye?
its that precise attitude which will make sure any kids I have will get fk all in the will.
Does that mean that you disapprove of my attitude, or that you agree with it and will, very sensibly in my view, leave your money to Cats Protection?
it means I disagree with your opinion

Davey111

732 posts

215 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Morally I think that unless your parents neglected or abused you throughout your childhood you should o what you can to support them when and if they need it. i know I would do everything I could.

However, I wouldn't say that it is their inherent right. i believet that children are entitled to the best care their parents can give and it is the parents responsibility that they are there. like I say though, I would hope that anyone who recieved care as a child from their parents would happily repay this.

Tazfan

1,186 posts

279 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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I will happily and willingly take on my role as a carer for my parents. I have a Brother and 2 Sisters, and we will all do our bit.
I love them both unconditionally, and I would not view looking after them as a hardship.
I will be glad to be able to do a little bit to show my love and gratitude to them both for bringing me into the world and looking after me so well and with so much care and love.

Edited by Tazfan on Wednesday 10th December 18:14

singlecoil

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Wednesday 10th December 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
it means I disagree with your opinion
Feel free to offer one of your own.

alfabadass

1,852 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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If some of the more selfish people had a chance to visit some of the forgotten elderly people living alone all over the place with only the odd visit from the local friendly neighbourhood distraction burglar, you'd quickly change your minds.

Plus, it'll be your turn one day. What comes around, goes around. If your kids see how you treat your elderly parents, they'll treat you the same in 30-40 years.

singlecoil

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Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Yoshiwaan said:
I agree with the OP, if they "need" the care then help them, if not then don't.
That isn't exactly what I was getting at. What I am saying is that although it is a good thing if children are able to care for their parents if and when they need it, that the parents aren't actually entitled to such care

miniman

30,039 posts

291 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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I hope my kids stick me in a home when the appropriate time comes, either when I am physically incapable of looking after myself or when I have gone truly and irretrievably mental. Genetics suggests that it will be the latter.

Seriously, would anyone want their kids having to give up their lives to wipe your arris and feed you mashed up veg through a straw? I will be making it entirely clear to my children that under no circumstances are they to move me in with them. Frankly I will top myself before that happens. Unfortunately if mental health turns out to be the issue, by the time you realise you need to top yourself you're focussing more on the fact that you invented the banana.

Old age. Nasty.