do u cover your radiator?
do u cover your radiator?
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CER927

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193 posts

246 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Hi guys its a tad freezing out there! I partially cover my radiator to get the thermostat opening and some heat in the cabin, just wondered if I would be better off covering the oil cooler instead/or as well. Whats the view of the more technicaly gifted out there?

BCA

8,651 posts

287 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Yes,partially cover it in the winter, but not on the Cerb.

Not sure if Dad does the same on the Cerb, but I'd definately consider it...

edited to add, Dad has done something with the heater control box and covered the air intakes for the cabin, effectively allowing the air to re-circ unless you have the windows open or un-cover the intakes. I am not sure exactly what is involved with the above though, I was busy playing with my car at the time. smile

Edited by BCA on Wednesday 10th December 19:47

Billy_rfc

587 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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This aint ice road truckers here is it? I dont think there is any need to cover any part of the rad or oil cooler in the UK.

morebeanz

3,283 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Some of the guys have oil temperature guages fitted, and will tell you that it is common for Cerb oil temperatures to languish well below operating temprature in winter.

Some have fitted by-pass valves to the oil coolers, so the rad is only used when properly warm.

It's definitely an issue, even in the UK...

volospian

494 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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It may well be a "need", it's trying to help the car warm up properly. These cars have a cooling system that is capable of keeping the engine temps down even on a hot day on the track (alledgedly ;-))

In winter my car rarely gets above 70 on the temp gauge, and we all know that at low temps that gauge under-reads a tad, so it probably never even opens the thermostat fully. This means that my car may well never be "fully" warming up during these cold months.

What I think the OP is asking is if restricting the airflow to the oil cooler/rad will assist in getting the car up to a sensible temp, while also allowing a bit more of that warmth into the cabin, which would be a pleasant aside.

I would be interested in this too. I could stuff a bit of card between the rad and the A/C condenser to reduce flow over the rad, therby making the rad effectively a bit smaller and less capable of exchanging heat, but I wouldn't want to cover the oil cooler in case the oil temps then get too high.

ro_butler

795 posts

301 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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If you don't cover the oil cooler the oil temp never gets high enough.
When you are on the motorway try dipping the clutch and seeing what the oil pressure settles at. Does it settle at 'hot idle' pressure or even close? Nope, neither does mine.....

Obviously if you are only going slowly then it will be fine but for quick driving the oil never reaches normal operating temp.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

242 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Hmmm, if I do body off restoration this winter then an oil cooler bypass and 'stat is definitely something I'm going to look into!

neilus

908 posts

312 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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morebeanz said:
Some of the guys have oil temperature guages fitted, and will tell you that it is common for Cerb oil temperatures to languish well below operating temprature in winter.

Some have fitted by-pass valves to the oil coolers, so the rad is only used when properly warm.

It's definitely an issue, even in the UK...
yes

Even with the by-pass the oil temperature only really gets above 60 degrees when you're stuck in traffic this time of the year.

Neil.

FUBAR

17,065 posts

268 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Funny, I was going to put a post about about covering the oil cooler. Would it just be as simple as sticking some bacofoil over it?

ro_butler

795 posts

301 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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FUBAR said:
Funny, I was going to put a post about about covering the oil cooler. Would it just be as simple as sticking some bacofoil over it?
Pretty much. I use cardboard as it won't conduct the heat away as easily.

Ireland

3,517 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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I got a new 82* stat for mine (it has a 72* in it now) and should have it fitted shortly (I'm nursing an injury at the moment so it has to wait).

Once I get it fitted I'll let you all know how it works out.

dean_ratpac

1,582 posts

308 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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ro_butler said:
FUBAR said:
Funny, I was going to put a post about about covering the oil cooler. Would it just be as simple as sticking some bacofoil over it?
Pretty much. I use cardboard as it won't conduct the heat away as easily.
i cover mine with cardboard every winter or long motorway trip.

Edited by dean_ratpac on Monday 15th December 20:11

volospian

494 posts

227 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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ro_butler said:
Pretty much. I use cardboard as it won't conduct the heat away as easily.
Doesn't it get soggy and stick in the fins?

FUBAR

17,065 posts

268 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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volospian said:
ro_butler said:
Pretty much. I use cardboard as it won't conduct the heat away as easily.
Doesn't it get soggy and stick in the fins?
Thats why I thought of tin foil.

ro_butler

795 posts

301 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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volospian said:
ro_butler said:
Pretty much. I use cardboard as it won't conduct the heat away as easily.
Doesn't it get soggy and stick in the fins?
LOL, it got soggy last weekend at Snetterton! It didn't disintegrate though as I used a Frosties packet and put the printed side facing the oil cooler.

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Personally I find a Reddy Brek packet is much better biggrin

morebeanz

3,283 posts

266 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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So what would the appropriate installation look like?

Am I correct in thinking that there is some sort of thermostat "spacer" in between the oil filter and block?
Where do you fit the bypass?

As you can tell, I haven't got a clue, but I am keen to understand! biggrin

BCA

8,651 posts

287 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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HTH thumbup

ro_butler

795 posts

301 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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BCA said:


HTH thumbup
HAHAHAHAHA!! Awesome, that is exactly what the installation looks like biggrin

volospian

494 posts

227 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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I think we have a laminator at work somewhere... I may try and get a large piece of card laminated.