MFI Woolworths and God forbid! Nissan??
MFI Woolworths and God forbid! Nissan??
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TWSTEEL

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1,099 posts

218 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Nissan's Sunderland workers were sent home on Tuesday until 15 December. There will then be three further days of non-production before the plant closes for Christmas.

The car company said it is monitoring sales through the economic crisis.

The 3,500 production staff are expected to remain on full pay and return to work as normal in January.

Then there are the other 3000 jobs indirectly affected in the component supply industry plus 500 casual workers on six month contracts.

Then the knock on effect of non-spending in the vicinity.

OUCH!

One young guy interviewed tonight gave up a permanent job a few months ago for a six month probationary period at Nissan. Excellent performance and timekeeping but got a letter today - finished at end of December.

No other job prospects in the area now. With everyone else scrambling for work in the area and no chance of selling his property and won't be able to afford mortgage so sees bankruptcy as his only option.

V8 Animal

6,015 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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One young guy interviewed tonight gave up a permanent job a few months ago for a six month probationary period at Nissan. Excellent performance and timekeeping but got a letter today - finished at end of December.

No other job prospects in the area now. With everyone else scrambling for work in the area and no chance of selling his property and won't be able to afford mortgage so sees bankruptcy as his only option.

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Call me insensitive but give up a permanant job to go into the motor trade!
Does'nt this guy read the news.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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In the westmids in the last week we've had a car component manufacturer and a ceramic insulator company go under.

The supply chain is dead. So the factorys cant be buying stuff. Which means they have no plans to build anything. It's not good.

TWSTEEL

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Wednesday 10th December 2008
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V8 Animal said:
One young guy interviewed tonight gave up a permanent job a few months ago for a six month probationary period at Nissan. Excellent performance and timekeeping but got a letter today - finished at end of December.

No other job prospects in the area now. With everyone else scrambling for work in the area and no chance of selling his property and won't be able to afford mortgage so sees bankruptcy as his only option.
Call me insensitive but give up a permanant job to go into the motor trade!
Does'nt this guy read the news.
He was probably reading the same news reports as Gordon wink

DKL

4,969 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Honda here in Swindon are on 4 day weeks for January and then off on basic pay for all of February and March. No lay offs - yet.....

TWSTEEL

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Wednesday 10th December 2008
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DKL said:
Honda here in Swindon are on 4 day weeks for January and then off on basic pay for all of February and March. No lay offs - yet.....
How the hell can they afford that................Ahhh.... Formula One.

DKL

4,969 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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TWSTEEL said:
DKL said:
Honda here in Swindon are on 4 day weeks for January and then off on basic pay for all of February and March. No lay offs - yet.....
How the hell can they afford that................Ahhh.... Formula One.
Depends what you mean. This is the factory not the F1 team in Northamptonshire. It was announced before the public decision to quit F1 and I would doubt the funding for the F1 team would be in the same league as running the factory. I imagine the company decision to quit F1 was taken a few weeks/months ago though.
Honda usually aren't that affected by these downturns but they are this time it seems.

TWSTEEL

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Wednesday 10th December 2008
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DKL said:
TWSTEEL said:
DKL said:
Honda here in Swindon are on 4 day weeks for January and then off on basic pay for all of February and March. No lay offs - yet.....
How the hell can they afford that................Ahhh.... Formula One.
Depends what you mean. This is the factory not the F1 team in Northamptonshire. It was announced before the public decision to quit F1 and I would doubt the funding for the F1 team would be in the same league as running the factory. I imagine the company decision to quit F1 was taken a few weeks/months ago though.
Honda usually aren't that affected by these downturns but they are this time it seems.
My tongue was firmly embedded in my cheeck for that one wink

Still makes you wonder how they can afford to pay the factory workers for two weeks "holiday" right now frown

DKL

4,969 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Indeed, that and not make any cars to sell for 2 months next year.

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

224 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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TWSTEEL said:
One young guy interviewed tonight gave up a permanent job a few months ago for a six month probationary period at Nissan. Excellent performance and timekeeping but got a letter today - finished at end of December.
He must be mad. Not at Nissan. At his own stupidity.

TWSTEEL

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Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Wonder what (all!) the other foreign owned factories are doing?
These two are Japanese owned and they've had a downturn to deal with before so they have the experience. Don't think it was as bad then of course as it wasn't global, but it must have prompted them to look long and hard at the problem in good time.

TWSTEEL

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Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Nolar Dog said:
TWSTEEL said:
One young guy interviewed tonight gave up a permanent job a few months ago for a six month probationary period at Nissan. Excellent performance and timekeeping but got a letter today - finished at end of December.
He must be mad. Not at Nissan. At his own stupidity.
Yes but six months ago would you believe it could have got this bad?

ultegra

525 posts

235 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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The death knell for Woolworth's rang when they ceased to sell Tomos mopeds.



No amount of Pick'N'Mix was going to save them from that fatal error.

BB-Q

1,697 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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DKL said:
Indeed, that and not make any cars to sell for 2 months next year.
Just means they can sell all the ones sitting n fields. It's cheaper than building more and more excess stock.

Also bear in mind that parent company Renault's interference in Nissan's quality control has dragged a once superb brand down into the murky depths of French motoring. A dealer principle told me that Nissan's warranty claims have gone up 400% since the Renault take over.

None of that helps business.

Scrotum

2,347 posts

243 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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My dad runs his own business and one of his main customers is Nissan in Sunderland. He has been working for them for over 10 years now.

In all that time he has never seen the flow line stopped or the engine test workshop in silence - this is how it was when he visited a few weeks ago. Cars are just not selling.

His other main client is Komatsu diggers based down the road in Birtley. At the start of November they had only 3 full days of work left until Christmas. They had not sold a single digger for around 3 months. Just to illustrate these are MAJOR employers in this area.

Hold on tight, 2009 is going to be an awful year frown

Komatsu

Nissan



Glosphil

4,880 posts

263 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Is that a Vulcun on the near side of the Nissan factory boundary fence?

Scrotum

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243 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Glosphil said:
Is that a Vulcun on the near side of the Nissan factory boundary fence?
http://www.neam.org.uk/Visit/visit.htm
http://www.neam.org.uk/Exhibits/History/XL319.htm

Edited by Scrotum on Wednesday 10th December 23:39

TWSTEEL

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Thursday 11th December 2008
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Scrotum said:
Glosphil said:
Is that a Vulcun on the near side of the Nissan factory boundary fence?
http://www.neam.org.uk/Visit/visit.htm
http://www.neam.org.uk/Exhibits/History/XL319.htm

Edited by Scrotum on Wednesday 10th December 23:39
http://www.wearsideonline.com/sunderland_internati...
It's not all cloth cap and whippets and Nuclear Broon - but we could certainly be heading back to the bad old 30's where the only growth industry is cheap alcohol to dull the pain.

fathomfive

11,220 posts

219 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Scrotum said:
My dad runs his own business and one of his main customers is Nissan in Sunderland. He has been working for them for over 10 years now.

In all that time he has never seen the flow line stopped or the engine test workshop in silence - this is how it was when he visited a few weeks ago. Cars are just not selling.

His other main client is Komatsu diggers based down the road in Birtley. At the start of November they had only 3 full days of work left until Christmas. They had not sold a single digger for around 3 months. Just to illustrate these are MAJOR employers in this area.

Hold on tight, 2009 is going to be an awful year frown

Komatsu

Nissan
Just out of interest, what does your fathers company do for Nissan / Komatsu? I only ask, as about 10 years ago I worked for a small fabrication company making stillages and production aids for both of those companies.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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I was thinking about buying a few preents from the Woolworths sale, but thinking about it a bit more - if they're broken I cant take them back. They can stick their sales and I'll buy it at somewhere more expensive that will still be around in January.

Sorry Woolies staff