Carbon footprint - EEK!
Carbon footprint - EEK!
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AstonZagato

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14,187 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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So, this is very embarrassing and I am clearly a feckwit. However, I am looking for some helpful advice rather than a roasting for my idiocy.

Years ago when I bought my current house, I signed a direct debit for my electricity. I noticed the payments going out occasionally but essentially I ignored them in my bank statements.

Now, I got a letter from E-On saying that my direct debit was going up to £650.

Per MONTH!

So, assuming this to be an obvious error, I phone up and ask what they think they are playing at. They assure me, that I am using 49,000 units of electricity a year compared to the usual consumption per household of 4,500 - 6,000. This has gone on for a number of years.

Eh? Where's all this electrickery going? We are a family of five and have someone else who lives in part-time. We don't as a rule leave all the lights burning. The house is heated on gas and the cooking is gas.

Ok, I run a swimming pool pump 24/7 and have driveway and garden lighting that must burn quite a bit but 10x a normal house? The swimming pool is heated on oil. I am not running a mahoosive mary-ju-wana hydroponics factory either (slightly surprised that the BiB haven't popped round to check on that...)

This can't be right. But I can't get E-On interested in investigating.

The Sparky is round as I type, isolating different circuits to find out what is drawing all this current.

Suggestions (other than stop being so stupid in paying bills)?




Oh and to get it out of the way, this is the worst I've got a big house and am too rich to notice huge bills post ever.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Even though its going to cost a couple of quid more (which is being challenged in court), I am going to change from DD's to cheque payment for my energy.

I am sick an tired of the constant random bills that I get. I had one electricity bill that jumped from 50 quid a month to 250 with NO explanation. 10 calls to their call centre later and I eventually get hold of someone who has a brain and can sort out the situation. Gas has randomly jumped too...

As has been reported - the energy companies make more money from the excess payments and the interest they make of this, than on the actual resale of energy in the first place. Therefore it is in their interest to overcharge (a lot) as it makes more money. I fully expect this to get worse now that the money markets are tougher....

Gits, the lot of them.

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Worst "I'm sick of 50w GU10 bulbs" thread ever.

rfn

4,607 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Have you turned off your electric at the fuse box to see if the meter is still going around? I would suggest it's a faulty meter?

whitechief

4,432 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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off_again said:
Even though its going to cost a couple of quid more (which is being challenged in court), I am going to change from DD's to cheque payment for my energy.

I am sick an tired of the constant random bills that I get. I had one electricity bill that jumped from 50 quid a month to 250 with NO explanation. 10 calls to their call centre later and I eventually get hold of someone who has a brain and can sort out the situation. Gas has randomly jumped too...

As has been reported - the energy companies make more money from the excess payments and the interest they make of this, than on the actual resale of energy in the first place. Therefore it is in their interest to overcharge (a lot) as it makes more money. I fully expect this to get worse now that the money markets are tougher....

Gits, the lot of them.
A certain British company supplying gas kept taking the direct debit from my account twice. When I picked it up they said they would credit my account, err no you can refund my money, "it's not our policy to do that Sir" "I couldn't care less what your policy is, refund it or I shall consider it stolen" eventually they did refund. I now pay by cheque.

s3fella

10,524 posts

216 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Best "considerably richer than YOWWWW!, er before the DD goes up!" post ever!

Are you sure the readings when you took the house on were right? Have you had proper periodic meter readings?
How much are you actually in arrears according to EON. ?

Eon are truly stupid. In July I moved supply to another after 6 years with EON and gave the new supplier readings from my dual economy 7 meter on the day of the move. They sent the readings to EON.
Imagine my surspise when i got a letter from EON saying they needed to investigate me and my meter as it "appeared to be running backwards" as the reading had dropped over 3000 units since the last reading.......this was in the same post delivery as another EON letter saying my DD would be increasing from £45 a month to £135 a month (even though I was moving from them) as one of my meter readings showed massive increase in use since my last reading......

Of course, an EON plank had put the night reading in the day reading box and vice versa....!
But that was July and it still is not sorted. They are truly thick SOBs!

AstonZagato

Original Poster:

14,187 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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They claim to be using actual meter readings not estimates. I have been in the house 11 years.

[AJ]

3,079 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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I had a call from British Gas along the same lines last year. Apparently they had been taking out about £8.00 per month for gas by direct debit. They phoned to kindly tell me that due to their stupidity and incompetence I now owe them over £1000. They then asked if I wanted to amend my direct debit! nuts

When questioned why this wasn't picked up sooner, or why meter readings were not taken they told me that there was never anyone home to allow the readings to take place. I work from home ffsake and have never seen anyone come to read the gas meter!

Edited by [AJ] on Thursday 11th December 15:02

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Faulty meter

I had mine replaced as Powergen couldnt work out why my readings were always the same. They were still happy to bill me a guesstimate though. Gas meter ended up needing replacement for something similar as well, I think that was batteries or power to the LCD screen

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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[AJ] said:
I had a call from British Gas along the same lines last year. Apparently they had been taking out about £8.00 per month for gas by direct debit. They phoned to kindly tell me that due to their stupidity and incompetence I now owe them over £1000. They then asked if I wanted to amend my direct debit! nuts

When questioned why this wasn't picked up sooner, or why meter readings were not taken they told me that there was never anyone home to allow the readings to take place. I work from home ffsake and have never seen anyone come to read the gas meter!

Edited by [AJ] on Thursday 11th December 15:02
Do you never check bank statements or make sure your utility bill is at least nearly correct?You can read your own meter and send this into BG....as much your fault as their's in my opinion...thumbup

Simpo Two

92,709 posts

294 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Following a bill from EON that was three times more than it should have been, after much stonewalling and red bils etc, they finally admitted they'd got the Economy 7 and normal numbers the wrong way round...

Vlad.

1,086 posts

246 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Sorry, but can I just point out that the stuff that goes through wires is called "electricity", not "electric". As in "Have you tried turning off the electricity?".

This is true even on council estates and in the north.

getmecoat

s3fella

10,524 posts

216 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Following a bill from EON that was three times more than it should have been, after much stonewalling and red bils etc, they finally admitted they'd got the Economy 7 and normal numbers the wrong way round...
So it is not just me they did that to? What f witts!

Bob Turner

405 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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s3fella said:
Simpo Two said:
Following a bill from EON that was three times more than it should have been, after much stonewalling and red bils etc, they finally admitted they'd got the Economy 7 and normal numbers the wrong way round...
So it is not just me they did that to? What f witts!
They would not admit it when this happend to me, even after their man had been round to read the meter to confirm the problem, until I sent them a picture of my meter with the numbers the other way round.

AstonZagato

Original Poster:

14,187 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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esselte said:
Do you never check bank statements or make sure your utility bill is at least nearly correct?You can read your own meter and send this into BG....as much your fault as their's in my opinion...thumbup
Personally, I do look at my bank statements but assume that the DD is roughly correct and rather assumed (stupidly) that it was a quarterly payment that I was looking at, not a monthly one. The wife files the bills away.

AstonZagato

Original Poster:

14,187 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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andy-xr said:
Faulty meter

I had mine replaced as Powergen couldnt work out why my readings were always the same. They were still happy to bill me a guesstimate though. Gas meter ended up needing replacement for something similar as well, I think that was batteries or power to the LCD screen
Any idea how I can prove it is faulty?

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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They sent someone round who looked suspiciously like the guy who'd been reading my meter a couple of weeks earlier

Start a dispute with them and for someone to come round to do some measurements

djmck30

258 posts

215 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Keep on at them. My old man used to work for one of the utility companies (not EON unfortunatley else I'd get him to have a shufti) in a department that specifically dealt with accounts where for whatever reason a bill has been generated that is stupidly huge compared to a typical house (normally old dears running the immersion 24 hours a day). Unfortunatley the bills get spat out by computer and yours has been unlucky & slipped throught the net

The hard part is getting the call centre clone to refer your query to this team. Sounds like you're doing the right thing getting a spark to check things out tho.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Has your wife been using her mains powered VIOLATOR dildo while you've been at work?

andygo

7,392 posts

284 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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rhinochopig said:
Has your wife been using her mains powered VIOLATOR dildo while you've been at work?
From what the PH Collective understand, you havn't returned it after borrowing it for one of your gayer parties....