Recommend a good SEO company?
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Anyone know a good SEO company? There seem to be plenty that guarantee first page rankings (or refund your money) - but wondering which one to try, especially since (as I understand it) it will be weeks / months before we see the benefits, and I can't afford to waste that time on the wrong company. Prices seem to vary enormously.....
Hi,
It’s very difficult to maintain the number one spot for any period of time. Really depends on the business type.
I.e. if you selling VW, FORD, VAUXHALL etc it’s going to be hard.
When a SEO company posts a site with the search engines they normally place it in the first 20 ranks then it drops like a stone after 2 or 3 days.
It’s kind of complicated to go into over the forum but there are lots of cowboys out there.
For example one of my clients paid £10k for SEO work and the company didn't do a think. They didn't even add Meta data to the pages.
If you need any advice PM me
It’s best to think of SEO as an ongoing project.
It’s very difficult to maintain the number one spot for any period of time. Really depends on the business type.
I.e. if you selling VW, FORD, VAUXHALL etc it’s going to be hard.
When a SEO company posts a site with the search engines they normally place it in the first 20 ranks then it drops like a stone after 2 or 3 days.
It’s kind of complicated to go into over the forum but there are lots of cowboys out there.
For example one of my clients paid £10k for SEO work and the company didn't do a think. They didn't even add Meta data to the pages.
If you need any advice PM me
It’s best to think of SEO as an ongoing project.
NO such thing, its all smoke and mirrors..
what you need is a good web design company to give you a properly designed website with good, relevant content, thats kept up to date etc..
all the seo's will sell you a quick fix that might work until the guys at google ( who are far cleverer than the seo guys) find it and then you might get blacklisted...
what you need is a good web design company to give you a properly designed website with good, relevant content, thats kept up to date etc..
all the seo's will sell you a quick fix that might work until the guys at google ( who are far cleverer than the seo guys) find it and then you might get blacklisted...
Graham said:
NO such thing, its all smoke and mirrors..
what you need is a good web design company to give you a properly designed website with good, relevant content, thats kept up to date etc..
all the seo's will sell you a quick fix that might work until the guys at google ( who are far cleverer than the seo guys) find it and then you might get blacklisted...
not true, BUT quality and regularly updated content is often overlooked. what you need is a good web design company to give you a properly designed website with good, relevant content, thats kept up to date etc..
all the seo's will sell you a quick fix that might work until the guys at google ( who are far cleverer than the seo guys) find it and then you might get blacklisted...
You can PM me you web address I'll take a look what sort of thing your trying to achieve. If i can do it I'll be cheap! Ive SEO'd quite a few of my own sites and am getting better and better at it. I can at least tell you how hard or easy it'll be to achieve the results your after.
Simpo Two said:
Bloke on phone: 'Hi, we're from Graphite and we can guarantee you a top ten place on Google!'
Me: 'So you can't have more than 10 customers then?'
Bloke on phone: 'Errr...'
Me: 'Bye'.
Me: 'So you can't have more than 10 customers then?'
Bloke on phone: 'Errr...'
Me: 'Bye'.
not the sharpest knife in the drawHow can anyone say that, I do realise that they can have upto 10 clients in field of business, which inturn could add up to thousands of clients. But it is still a rather misleading statement.
Discord23 said:
there are really 8 elements to SEO not everyone knows them all but you gotta balance all the elements.
Also search engines behave in differernt ways so ideally you need differernt scripts and pages for each one.
What are these 8 elements then? Let's share the knowledge people...Also search engines behave in differernt ways so ideally you need differernt scripts and pages for each one.
The ones I know of are:
metadata (keywords and description)
page title
search engine readable content on pages (i.e. dont put keywords in images or flash)
URL Re-writing (anyone know a good way to do this in ASP.NET/IIS?)
Sitemaps (dynamic if possible)
Often updated content (i.e blog or news)
Links to other sites & other sites linking to you
erm...thats all I can think of.
Anyone else?
All UK searching is about Google.
All Google is about inbound links.
Get high quality contextual inbound links and you will rise up the rankings, its not rocket science.
All some of these SEO companies do is programatically create thousands of websites, with contextual information relating to your keyword and embed you as a link in them.
Google changed the rules to say you cant be penalised for inbound linking, so you wont get penalised for link farming.
Its a bit of a technical scam on the whole.
All Google is about inbound links.
Get high quality contextual inbound links and you will rise up the rankings, its not rocket science.
All some of these SEO companies do is programatically create thousands of websites, with contextual information relating to your keyword and embed you as a link in them.
Google changed the rules to say you cant be penalised for inbound linking, so you wont get penalised for link farming.
Its a bit of a technical scam on the whole.
Plotloss said:
All UK searching is about Google.
All Google is about inbound links.
Not true...All Google is about inbound links.
[quote]
Google changed the rules to say you cant be penalised for inbound linking, so you wont get penalised for link farming.
By that logic I can setup a single page site and farm out a zillion links at $0.5 a pop and become frontpage on 'loans' and earn 6figs a month. Or not...
We used this design and SEO outfit: http://www.ricemedia.co.uk/
Very impressed with them. They have designed and optimised our sites:
http://www.heritage-quote.co.uk
http://www.tradesure-quote.co.uk
For the search term 'classic car insurance' we were 6th ish on google page 1. We are now 1st since we have been using them.
For the search term 'motor trade insurance' we were nowhere on google. We are now 14th and climbing.
Speak to Paul Rice on 0845 094 3770.
Very impressed with them. They have designed and optimised our sites:
http://www.heritage-quote.co.uk
http://www.tradesure-quote.co.uk
For the search term 'classic car insurance' we were 6th ish on google page 1. We are now 1st since we have been using them.
For the search term 'motor trade insurance' we were nowhere on google. We are now 14th and climbing.
Speak to Paul Rice on 0845 094 3770.
robuk said:
Plotloss said:
All UK searching is about Google.
All Google is about inbound links.
Not true...All Google is about inbound links.
[quote]
Google changed the rules to say you cant be penalised for inbound linking, so you wont get penalised for link farming.
By that logic I can setup a single page site and farm out a zillion links at $0.5 a pop and become frontpage on 'loans' and earn 6figs a month. Or not...
If you could provide information as to why they're not I'll happily read it.
The most important weighting in the algorithm is high quality contextual inbound links from high pageranking sites and you will not get penalised if someone holds a link to you, whatever the view of that site by Google.
Plotloss said:
They're both quite true.
If you could provide information as to why they're not I'll happily read it.
The most important weighting in the algorithm is high quality contextual inbound links from high pageranking sites and you will not get penalised if someone holds a link to you, whatever the view of that site by Google.
You said "Google changed the rules to say you cant be penalised for inbound linking, so you wont get penalised for link farming" you are now saying you need "high quality contextual inbound links from high pageranking sites and you will not get penalised"If you could provide information as to why they're not I'll happily read it.
The most important weighting in the algorithm is high quality contextual inbound links from high pageranking sites and you will not get penalised if someone holds a link to you, whatever the view of that site by Google.
Apples and oranges...!
Crap links = binned out of google.
Good links = higher ranking
Former is cheap ass link farming (which you said is fine) and the latter is proper SEO work, and is why it costs decent money for a good job.
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