Lloyds TSB
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ATM

Original Poster:

21,563 posts

250 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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Their share price has come down quite a lot today. Anyone buying here?

ATM

Original Poster:

21,563 posts

250 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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I didn't buy till nearly 4pm. Just before it started heading south basically. Any idea why it took such a dive earlier?

ATM

Original Poster:

21,563 posts

250 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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Yes spot on I bought at the high point there. My reasoning was it had broke out of the [all day] congestion so I thought it was an indication that the buyers were in control. I'll hold on to them. I dont see Lloyds doing a Northern Rock anytime soon. Maybe I'll buy more Monday too.

Whats interesting about Barclays - some profit taking prior to close maybe?

ATM

Original Poster:

21,563 posts

250 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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How do you decide which shares to buy/sell?

ATM

Original Poster:

21,563 posts

250 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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I thought the majority of retail spread betters generally lost money.

mwg123

148 posts

230 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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anonymous said:
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What site do you use for tradeing and or watching the market? I have just started using shareprice.co.uk they say it is real time... Any ideas how good it actually is?


Matt

mwg123

148 posts

230 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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anonymous said:
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Great advivce, thanks for the help.

Matt

rinker

179 posts

225 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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I bought more on Friay at £1.30. But i have a question,

I have had a letter from Lloyds tsb for Open offer of Ordinary Shares at £1.73, I dont realy want to buy them but if i dont am i missing out on a great offer? Any advice please, as i have no idea as to what to do.

rinker

179 posts

225 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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anonymous said:
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Thats the bit i dont get either, but i am sure someone who has Lloyds tsb share will come along and explain.

cannedheat

953 posts

306 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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rinker said:
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Thats the bit i dont get either, but i am sure someone who has Lloyds tsb share will come along and explain.
Is this a rights issue? If you can buy them cheaper in the market then do that... the underwriter of the issue will have to buy them at the rights price if the public dont.

That's what happened in the RBS case, except that the Govenment was the underwriter...

rinker

179 posts

225 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Cannedheat,
That sounds about right,
It says on my letter than if i do not but my qouta at £1.73 than the Goverment will and all surplus of the extras shares that are being offered, the max i would be allowed to buy would be £20,000,

ZeroSum

208 posts

234 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Got in Barc at 144 - hoping for a nice rise tomorrow, GL all!

51mes

1,557 posts

231 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Have an amazing ... as in how the hell do they expect anyone to fall for it..

Offer from HBOS - buy shares at 113.5 - trading on friday @ 67.5p then trade them for 0.6 of a lloyds share (based on a value of 173.5) last quote I saw for them was 129.5..

Err - is that just a mechanism to throw money away ?

Why they even bothered to post the offer to me?


NoelWatson

11,710 posts

273 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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anonymous said:
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Are you sure?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/ba...

rinker

179 posts

225 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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51mes said:
Have an amazing ... as in how the hell do they expect anyone to fall for it..

Offer from HBOS - buy shares at 113.5 - trading on friday @ 67.5p then trade them for 0.6 of a lloyds share (based on a value of 173.5) last quote I saw for them was 129.5..

Err - is that just a mechanism to throw money away ?

Why they even bothered to post the offer to me?
Thats cleared it up for me then, Thanks,

I will throw this offer away.

rinker

179 posts

225 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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But didnt it finish bad today, I dread to think what will happen tomorrow.

bluevelvet

2,394 posts

285 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Don't worry, I am quite sure most will have sold out at the highs of the day!

Coming up to year end when liquidity will be poor and many banks reporting, you really do need to have luck on your side to flip these stocks out for a marginal profit after you have covered dealing costs...hardly seems worth it at the moment, there will be better opportunities to play, right now neither the fundamentals or even short term technicals are telling you these stocks are a buy...good luck!

bluevelvet

2,394 posts

285 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Fesuvious, be careful, it can be a slippery slope when short term trading strategies turn into long term investments.

LD1Racing

8,527 posts

249 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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anonymous said:
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Short selling isn't allowed anymore, however with spread betting you are doing just that, betting, rather than trading the underlying instrument.

bluevelvet

2,394 posts

285 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Hopefully more friendly advice than warning.....the rationale is that you enter a trade for a reason based on fundamentals, price action or technicals.....with an upside target or stop loss...you can roll the stop upwards if in profit, but best to take the stop loss if prices go against you....at this point, things are clearly not going as you expect...so therefore best to get out while you re asses......if it goes against your original thoughts and you stay in, you tend to have less conviction on the position and are at the mercy of flows....if you have a clean slate,you can then enter the strategy with better location, if and when you have a reason to.....it is easy to get lost in the forest, not seeing the wood for the trees (sorry!) when you have a position you are not in touch with and ultimately miss out on a better trading opportunity....Good luck.