5 services on a 30k 1998 335 - is it enough
5 services on a 30k 1998 335 - is it enough
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stompboxx

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309 posts

215 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Found a great looking 355...checking out the service history, there have been 5 in total for a car that's covered 33k over 10 years...is it enough? I'm not so sure...mileage wise I'm sure it's fine but should I be looking for a service every year regardless of mileage? This ones had one every 18-24 months.

Edited by stompboxx on Sunday 14th December 21:56

Bemmer

1,195 posts

232 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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stompboxx said:
Found a great looking 335...checking out the service history, there have been 5 in total for a car that's covered 33k over 10 years...is it enough? I'm not so sure...mileage wise I'm sure it's fine but should I be looking for a service every year regardless of mileage? This ones had one every 18-24 months.
This must be a Very Rare Model..!! Ferrari 335..?? Is it a Diesel..?? Only Joking..!!thumbup

Cactussed

5,364 posts

243 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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If its in good condition, and the right price, do it. Any cretin can make up a history. A stamp can't hide poor condition though.

stompboxx

Original Poster:

309 posts

215 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Bemmer said:
stompboxx said:
Found a great looking 335...checking out the service history, there have been 5 in total for a car that's covered 33k over 10 years...is it enough? I'm not so sure...mileage wise I'm sure it's fine but should I be looking for a service every year regardless of mileage? This ones had one every 18-24 months.
This must be a Very Rare Model..!! Ferrari 335..?? Is it a Diesel..?? Only Joking..!!thumbup
haha i really need to get more sleep!!

baptist

632 posts

286 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Should be every year or 6k miles, whatever comes first.
I wouldnt buy one that had only been serviced every 2 years or so. Plenty out there at the moment, at good prices, look elsewhere I say.
Servicing is critical on these cars.

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658 posts

222 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Lets get it right, a yearly service is just a glorified oil change and ferrari tax. I have yet to see more than the two that i looked at with a yearly annual stamp as well as the main service stamps as well. Quite a few i have looked at have been stamped every two years.
To put it into perspective, on the basis that a service book should be stamped every year. On a 10 year old 33K mile 355. There should be 10 annual stamps. PLUS 2 main service stamps which are the 12,500 and 25,000 mile stamps. As well as another two will be due very soon which are the 37,500 miler and another anual service stamp for 2009.
Also 40K mile 1994-5 355 should have 13-14 annual stamps, which it cant because there are only 10 stamp boxes. Plus the 12,500 & 25,000 and the 37,500.
But as already been said, fully yearly stamps in the service book does not even guarantee a car in good condition.
So you want a book with approx 13-15 stamps and a car in good condition. LOL!! Good luck with thatbiggrin There's plenty out there.......not;)

neil-f

1,647 posts

237 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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The car should have annual service or 6250 service every year minimum. You also have 18750 service and belt change service at 25k or every 3 years.

Good cars will be over serviced my 1995 F355 was such a car when I sold it at 24k mls it was 10 years old it had 5 belt changes of which 2 had been full 18750 services, 1 clutch, 3 x 6250ml services and 4 annual services. Brake fluid was changed annually.

I certainly would NOT buy a 33k 10 year old car that has been serviced 5 times in its life this is neglect what else have they skimped on?

Number of spaces in the book is not an issue as you can get an extra book.

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658 posts

222 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Hands up who has ever seen a 355 with an extra sevice book. Talk is cheepbiggrin
But if we are talking about servicing to the letter regarding the Ferrari service books. Its recomended in the same books that a belt change is done at 52k miles or every 5 years or which ever come firstbiggrin


Edited by here on Monday 15th December 10:59

jdw1234

6,021 posts

245 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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here said:
Hands up who has ever seen a 355 with an extra sevice book. Talk is cheepbiggrin
But if we are talking about servicing to the letter regarding the Ferrari service books. Its recomended in the same books that a belt change is done at 52k miles or every 5 years or which ever come firstbiggrin


Edited by here on Monday 15th December 10:59
Thats in the US, not Europe though.


neil-f

1,647 posts

237 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Service books originaly stated 4 years when the F355 first came out but a press release changed that to every 3 years or 25000 miles. What Ferrari do you have with a service book that shows 52000 miles for a belt change?
I had a 348 that had an additional service book so I am speaking from experience what about you here?biggrin

here

658 posts

222 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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I have 12 years expereance and owned 6 so far. I currently have two including a 360 and 328 GTS.
And i still have never seen a car sold with a fully stamped up book and a spare one.

jdw1234

6,021 posts

245 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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here said:
I have 12 years expereance and owned 6 so far. I currently have two including a 360 and 328 GTS.
And i still have never seen a car sold with a fully stamped up book and a spare one.
Nice stable!!

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658 posts

222 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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jdw1234 said:
here said:
Hands up who has ever seen a 355 with an extra sevice book. Talk is cheepbiggrin
But if we are talking about servicing to the letter regarding the Ferrari service books. Its recomended in the same books that a belt change is done at 52k miles or every 5 years or which ever come firstbiggrin


Edited by here on Monday 15th December 10:59
Thats in the US, not Europe though.
Oh of course it slipped my mind that the belts and 355 engines in the USA are not the same as the ones in Europebiggrin Hands up who know how they are different. Neil?

Cactussed

5,364 posts

243 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Lets not degenerate into 'handbags at 20 paces'...

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658 posts

222 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Cactussed said:
Lets not degenerate into 'handbags at 20 paces'...
??

neil-f

1,647 posts

237 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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So your are not as fussy about your cars service history, I will only buy a car that has FULL history and if you look for them they are about.
I am not as lucky as you to have owned 6 but the Ferraris that I have owned have ALL HAD VERY COMPLETE (no gaps what so ever)service books and receipts etc to back all the work up.

If when buying people look at the cheaper ones for sale they do tend to have patchy histories thats also why they are cheaper IMHO.

And no idea here why the US service schedule should be different but not having a US model Ferrari it does not concern me wink

jdw1234

6,021 posts

245 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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here said:
jdw1234 said:
here said:
Hands up who has ever seen a 355 with an extra sevice book. Talk is cheepbiggrin
But if we are talking about servicing to the letter regarding the Ferrari service books. Its recomended in the same books that a belt change is done at 52k miles or every 5 years or which ever come firstbiggrin


Edited by here on Monday 15th December 10:59
Thats in the US, not Europe though.
Oh of course it slipped my mind that the belts and 355 engines in the USA are not the same as the ones in Europebiggrin Hands up who know how they are different. Neil?
I didn't say that. Its a well know anomaly.

European versus US servicing schedules

http://www.the355.com/mambo/content/view/26/29/


For an unknown reason, US F355's have a different servicing schedule to European F355's. The main difference centres around the cambelt change frequency. For US 355's it is stated as every 5 years, whereas in Europe it is stated as every 3 years (both must be done at the same mileage if this is reached before time). For later cars, Ferrari changed to follow the European recommendations but this has left F355 owners unsure as to what is required; after all there is nothing different between the materials used between US and EU cars. If in doubt, do what it says in your user manual.





Edited by jdw1234 on Monday 15th December 12:13


Edited by jdw1234 on Monday 15th December 12:16

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658 posts

222 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Your right i am not fussy, just realistic. But i apreciate your point of view.
So if one was to buy a 21 year old 1977 308 GTB, then should there be a minimum of 31 anual service stamps (cant see it my self), that does not include the belt main/services stamps. Never seen one of them either, not saying there not out there some were but they certainly are not common IMO.

Edited by here on Monday 15th December 16:01

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658 posts

222 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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jdw1234 said:
here said:
jdw1234 said:
here said:
Hands up who has ever seen a 355 with an extra sevice book. Talk is cheepbiggrin
But if we are talking about servicing to the letter regarding the Ferrari service books. Its recomended in the same books that a belt change is done at 52k miles or every 5 years or which ever come firstbiggrin


Edited by here on Monday 15th December 10:59
Thats in the US, not Europe though.
Oh of course it slipped my mind that the belts and 355 engines in the USA are not the same as the ones in Europebiggrin Hands up who know how they are different. Neil?
I didn't say that. Its a well know anomaly.

European versus US servicing schedules

http://www.the355.com/mambo/content/view/26/29/


For an unknown reason, US F355's have a different servicing schedule to European F355's. The main difference centres around the cambelt change frequency. For US 355's it is stated as every 5 years, whereas in Europe it is stated as every 3 years (both must be done at the same mileage if this is reached before time). For later cars, Ferrari changed to follow the European recommendations but this has left F355 owners unsure as to what is required; after all there is nothing different between the materials used between US and EU cars. If in doubt, do what it says in your user manual.





Edited by jdw1234 on Monday 15th December 12:13


Edited by jdw1234 on Monday 15th December 12:16
I know you did not say that rolleyes i was being sarcastic mate;)
This is an interesting set of links, very good reading http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/article.php?r... and http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/showthread.php?t...

Edited by here on Monday 15th December 12:24

jdw1234

6,021 posts

245 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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here said:
jdw1234 said:
here said:
jdw1234 said:
here said:
Hands up who has ever seen a 355 with an extra sevice book. Talk is cheepbiggrin
But if we are talking about servicing to the letter regarding the Ferrari service books. Its recomended in the same books that a belt change is done at 52k miles or every 5 years or which ever come firstbiggrin


Edited by here on Monday 15th December 10:59
Thats in the US, not Europe though.
Oh of course it slipped my mind that the belts and 355 engines in the USA are not the same as the ones in Europebiggrin Hands up who know how they are different. Neil?
I didn't say that. Its a well know anomaly.

European versus US servicing schedules

http://www.the355.com/mambo/content/view/26/29/


For an unknown reason, US F355's have a different servicing schedule to European F355's. The main difference centres around the cambelt change frequency. For US 355's it is stated as every 5 years, whereas in Europe it is stated as every 3 years (both must be done at the same mileage if this is reached before time). For later cars, Ferrari changed to follow the European recommendations but this has left F355 owners unsure as to what is required; after all there is nothing different between the materials used between US and EU cars. If in doubt, do what it says in your user manual.





Edited by jdw1234 on Monday 15th December 12:13


Edited by jdw1234 on Monday 15th December 12:16
I know you did not say that rolleyes i was being sarcastic mate;)
This is an interesting set of links, very good reading http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/article.php?r... and http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/showthread.php?t...

Edited by here on Monday 15th December 12:24
Fairy muff :-)

Does seem a bit silly, I agree.