Limited Slip Diffs
Discussion
Morning all,
I know the LSDs on Cerbs get a bit of a slating (why have one on a car like this - if its kicking in, you're driving it wrong etc) but the one on mine probably saved my life on saturday...
Driving along the roads of Dorset and going to pull away from a roundabout - as I move off, the back gets a bit skittish and starts sliding around. I assume that there's some diesel or rock salt on the road, so back off the throttle and off I go... then 10 seconds later
Thop!Thop!Thop!Thop!Thop!
Crap, a puncture - oh well, stop at the next layby and have a look - to find that the rear passenger side tire had delaminated and separated from the rim (if I'd thought, I'd have taken a picture). No damage to the car, the rim is a bit dented but balanced ok with the new tyre on (time for a new set of rims as well?)... Either way, a new set of boots is being fitted at lunchtime as I simply dont trust the rest anymore...
I know the LSDs on Cerbs get a bit of a slating (why have one on a car like this - if its kicking in, you're driving it wrong etc) but the one on mine probably saved my life on saturday...
Driving along the roads of Dorset and going to pull away from a roundabout - as I move off, the back gets a bit skittish and starts sliding around. I assume that there's some diesel or rock salt on the road, so back off the throttle and off I go... then 10 seconds later
Thop!Thop!Thop!Thop!Thop!
Crap, a puncture - oh well, stop at the next layby and have a look - to find that the rear passenger side tire had delaminated and separated from the rim (if I'd thought, I'd have taken a picture). No damage to the car, the rim is a bit dented but balanced ok with the new tyre on (time for a new set of rims as well?)... Either way, a new set of boots is being fitted at lunchtime as I simply dont trust the rest anymore...
What on earth has that got to do with your lsd? ]
The wobble was most probably caused by your tyre delaminating & deshaping itself. Don't forget a powerful rwd car without an lsd is only a one wheel drive car so you do need it MOST of the time
And I'll have a guess it was a Toyo Proxes T1 something
The wobble was most probably caused by your tyre delaminating & deshaping itself. Don't forget a powerful rwd car without an lsd is only a one wheel drive car so you do need it MOST of the time
And I'll have a guess it was a Toyo Proxes T1 something
Edited by cptsideways on Monday 15th December 09:44
touching cloth said:
Brian March said:
why have one on a car like this - if its kicking in, you're driving it wrong etc
eh?The old tyres were Bridgestones (I personally hate Bridgestones but thats a long story), there was no sign of a puncture or penetration, just a complete failure of the tyre. Either way, I really dont fancy trying to drive the TVR with one drive wheel, esp when the other rim is rotating inside the thrashed tyre
Brian March said:
touching cloth said:
Brian March said:
why have one on a car like this - if its kicking in, you're driving it wrong etc
eh?ETA: Yes Bridgestones are poo, personally hate them also....go on ask me why, it's slightly amusing.
Edited by WorAl on Monday 15th December 13:09
A limited slip diff won't prevent an oversteer slide, in fact can help to provoke one more readily when compared to an open diff. It's job is to prevent one wheel that doesn't have traction from spinning (or slipping) away all the power whilst the opposite wheel that may have traction gets delivered no power (exactly what happens in an open diff), it's more about ensuring you deliver the power to the road and is generally regarded a performance enhancement rather than a safety one - They certainly have their place in high power cars, on track with a car loaded up mid corner you can easily spin up the unloaded wheel delaying your progress. I am not sure what the thread was that said they were a waste of time, I guess under road use some may consider them overkill or even that they enhance the risk for tail out action.
WorAl said:
Brian March said:
touching cloth said:
Brian March said:
why have one on a car like this - if its kicking in, you're driving it wrong etc
eh?ETA: Yes Bridgestones are poo, personally hate them also....go on ask me why, it's slightly amusing.
Edited by WorAl on Monday 15th December 13:09
My reason for hating them is having to return a full set of 9 month old tyres a couple of years ago due to the tyres developing cracks not only across the tyre surface but around the tyre as well. They were returned for investigation but they wrote back and said "You must have not pumped them up correctly"... not a manufacturing defect then. Oh no...
Brian March said:
WorAl said:
Brian March said:
touching cloth said:
Brian March said:
why have one on a car like this - if its kicking in, you're driving it wrong etc
eh?ETA: Yes Bridgestones are poo, personally hate them also....go on ask me why, it's slightly amusing.
Edited by WorAl on Monday 15th December 13:09
My reason for hating them is having to return a full set of 9 month old tyres a couple of years ago due to the tyres developing cracks not only across the tyre surface but around the tyre as well. They were returned for investigation but they wrote back and said "You must have not pumped them up correctly"... not a manufacturing defect then. Oh no...
te R (also hate these with a passion...another story) with these tyres on, where i used to live the street was on a slight rise. i.e. raised 2 feet over 15 yards.was snow on the ground about 1 inch deep, reversed car off drive, went to pull away, wheels span, so dropped bit further back and really took my time, wheels still span, so as car was in 1st gear, i got out and had a look at the wheel turning.....absolutely crap in the slightest bad weather.
Also had them on my Subaru (when i bought it) and the car was dreadful in anything but the dry...changed to yokahamas and they barely spun in ice.....Yokahama's are the future for my cars.....
Sorry for the long post.
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