HIPs (as in house reports)
HIPs (as in house reports)
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Brown and Boris

Original Poster:

11,838 posts

264 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Anybody ever seen one?

What a pile of pooh.

I have just looked at the one on a house in our village from the estate agents web site. Firstly it gives info I am not sure I would want all comers to have: owner details and what they paid for the house. Secondly it makes bizzare sugestions about how to improve the energy efficiency, like 50mm of insulation on the walls of a 200 year old mid-terrace sandstone cottage, solar panels in a grade 2 listed house. All to save £27 a year. And no survey, which is the bits that really matters to most people.

They are having a giraffe right?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

276 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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They have just got worse as far as I know.

Utter nonsense. A housing market in dispair and they make it even more complicated to try and sell your house.

hiltonig

3,153 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Yep ill second that they are a pile of worthless crap, far better to make home sellers do a proper inspection as a building society would look at. Hmm so Ill have a look at the loft and measure each room, is it insulated err yes, well then thats one report and 350 quid please


and the purchaser didnt even read it !!!!!!

Diderot

9,625 posts

221 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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They are a way for the government to introduce an energy tax on homes - which is why they forced it through under false pretences.

The feckers

B17NNS

18,506 posts

276 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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hiltonig said:
far better to make home sellers do a proper inspection
Nice idea in theory but would you (or your lender) trust a survey prepared by the vendor?

Likewise, all the searches are being doubled up.

Complete and utter waste of time and money.

As has been said, the government is making us pay to provide information which they can subsequently use to tax us.



RobboC

1,762 posts

290 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Yep, complete bks, they're not speeding up sales either.

And just to make things worse, the current 'first day marketing' rule that allows you to market a property as soon as the HIP has been ordered/paid for will no longer exist after 6th April 2009, so after that date, you will have to have your HIP all completed (taking 2/3 weeks at present) before the agent can begin marketing your property.

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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IIRC it's cheaper to be fined for not having one than it is to get one. Do Estate Agents refuse to sell houses which are 'non-compliant'; either by choice or by law?

marlinmunro

3,071 posts

234 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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We paid for one last year, complete waste of money, no one asked to look at it.Taken the house off the market as the housing market is a joke at present. So that's nearly four hundred quid down the drain, vote Labour mad Cheers Gordon will get my own back soon.

andygo

7,391 posts

284 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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They do go out of date.

Mines due to expire in about 4 mths. So that'll be £300 or so for a new one. That will, funnily enough, be exactly the same as the old one.

It's at that point my house will come off the market.

Estate agents lost money, I've lost money, but at least the guy doing the Hips has made some.

The Government. Doing everything it can think of to screw the country.

Thanks.

rah1888

1,589 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Diderot said:
They are a way for the government to introduce an energy tax on homes - which is why they forced it through under false pretences.

The feckers
yes
Sadly i believe this to be their true purpose

rah1888

1,589 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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BAHN-STORMA said:
V8mate said:
Do Estate Agents refuse to sell houses which are 'non-compliant'; either by choice or by law?
Yes, one agent around here was fined £4000.00.

I also asked whether they would do any 'stealth' marketing, before I forked out for a HIP, but the answer was no.
IIRC, there after they get caught a second time they are no longer allowed to continue in business.

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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BAHN-STORMA said:
V8mate said:
Do Estate Agents refuse to sell houses which are 'non-compliant'; either by choice or by law?
Yes, one agent around here was fined £4000.00.

I also asked whether they would do any 'stealth' marketing, before I forked out for a HIP, but the answer was no.
The Agent was fined?

I thought the responsibility lay with the vendor?

rah1888

1,589 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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V8mate said:
BAHN-STORMA said:
V8mate said:
Do Estate Agents refuse to sell houses which are 'non-compliant'; either by choice or by law?
Yes, one agent around here was fined £4000.00.

I also asked whether they would do any 'stealth' marketing, before I forked out for a HIP, but the answer was no.
The Agent was fined?

I thought the responsibility lay with the vendor?
it does if they sell privately, but once they instruct an agent the responsibility transfers to that agent.

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Can you hear that whooshing noise?? That's rude_boy's blood pressure going through the roof at the very mention of HIPS.

fking waste of space stealth tax bks that they are.


rah1888

1,589 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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scotal said:
Can you hear that whooshing noise?? That's rude_boy's blood pressure going through the roof at the very mention of HIPS.

fking waste of space stealth tax bks that they are.
yes i think that sums them up.....!

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

224 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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H.I.P's are great. They created lots of jobs. rolleyes

Zod

35,295 posts

287 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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yet another idiotic, expensive idea from the most useless bunch of turds on the planet.

blot

1,308 posts

266 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Yup, complete and utter dung.

We had one done for a property earlier this year. £400+ and most of it states that "the local council do not divulge this info" so our buyer's solicitor still has to do all the searches, the valuer and surveyor still have to go through their process, what is the point of them?????????


nonplussed

3,338 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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I don't normally join the "everything the gov't does is st" chorus, but on this particular occasion it couldn't be more appropriate. Complete waste of time and money that achieves precisely nothing.

Edited by nonplussed on Tuesday 16th December 21:28

Brown and Boris

Original Poster:

11,838 posts

264 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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To me they dropped the only valuable bit: the survey. I am sure they could have come up with an independent way of doing surveys so that the obstacles to any sale are clear before you make an offer (and stop all of this renegiation after the survey malarky).

I think when they ever do mine they will need some more points of the energy efficiency scale as I have old sandstone walls with just dead mice insulating the cavity , massive single glazed windows from 1848 (with 2mm glass), large cast iron rads and draughts like a wind tunnel. It omits more CO2 than Drax.